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      • Sybil@lemmy.worldEnglish
        318·
        11 months ago

        if there is no difference in the actual oil extraction and burning, then it does no good.

    • astropenguin5@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8·
      11 months ago

      A little less yeah, considering that there has been an increase in renewables for grid power, also it’s much more efficient burn oil/natgas/etc. in a big powerplant than in an ICE car, so less is needed overall.

      So yes. It does help. But electric trains are still better lol And we need more renewable grid power

      • Sybil@lemmy.worldEnglish
        15·
        11 months ago

        less is needed overall.

        So yes. It does help

        this is what i’m dubious about. just because less is burned in, say, passenger vehicles does not mean any less is produced or burned in some other industry. this article actually says that we made more oil this year than last.

        • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          4·
          11 months ago

          But it does mean less was produced for and burned by the automotive industry

          All other things equal if those EVs were ICE then even more oil would have been used for what should be obvious reasons

          • Sybil@lemmy.worldEnglish
            15·
            11 months ago

            unless it actually decreased GHG emissions, it did no good. it’s rearranging the deck chairs.

          • Sybil@lemmy.worldEnglish
            15·
            11 months ago

            then even more oil would have been used

            if the oil is in the ground, it can’t have been used.

            • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
              3·
              11 months ago

              Do you think we literally use oil as we dig it up with no buffer?

              Or that oil extraction amount isn’t being constantly adjusted based on demand by every entity in charge of it?

              Or that if more ICE vehicles were on the road more oil would be needed?

              These are all very basic concepts

              • Sybil@lemmy.worldEnglish
                14·
                11 months ago

                i think there is no way to prove we would have dug up and burned any more oil than we did since we can’t prove a counterfactual. what we do know is, despite an increased use of electric vehicles, oil extraction increased.