Hey! A kbin user here, just logged in to my lemmy.world dummy account to ask this, I’ve noticed communities like m/AskKbin, m/Cars, M/RedditMigration and etc are not federating at all with Kbin anymore, I am not sure if this is just an issue from my side, a bug or did lemmy.world mods really decide to not federate with Kbin??
EDIT: Just saw another official post from the admins here 3 months back, so looks like it is partially defederated as in Lemmy.world from one side can’t see Kbin’s communities thanks to the spam issue a while back?
To mention, the spam issue is no longer a problem afaik, and Kbin has since brought built-in mod request system, allowing inactive communities to be requested by new moderators similar to reddit request, this has helped a lot and ever since many of the “used to be spam with inactive mods” is no longer an issue as new mods have since started requesting and taking over those communities.
Ie; One of the biggest Kbin communities: m/RedditMigration, was a community that had an inactive mod and a flow of spam, I was able to takeover and place ban on the spammers and bring back the peace. We were able to make a ton of progress in the past month, placing new rules and soon, we will be recruiting even more mods to keep up the quality-control.
So I do hope lemmy.world can reinstate full federation between both platforms, allowing users from here to see communities there as well.
EDIT: Also Kbin.social’s admins, is Ernest who is also the developer of Kbin itself, when lemmy.world admins decided to hide Kbin communities about 3 months ago, Ernest was facing private issues in his life but ever since then development resumed from being paused and bot spam has been addressed apart from the mod request system that has also been helping. Considering it’s been months and it’s now no longer as the issue it was months ago, I do hope the admins here can bring back the connection between both instances.
Hm… seems to be an issue with these specific communities. I can open other magazines just fine - for example !breathofthewild@kbin.social still works without issues, but !cars@kbin.social just gave me two error messages before it properly opened, and now shows zero posts, comments or subscribers despite having 300+ posts when viewed via https://kbin.social/m/cars instead. The content simply doesn’t appear for me when viewed via Lemmy.world
From lemm.ee instance !cars@kbin.social has 0 subscribers and 0 posts.
…and zero users per week, which is wrong even when viewed from “this side” of the Fediverse, as many people have clicked that link by now. Hm. Seems like it is not “just” a federation issue when the Lemmy.world version of the magazine doesn’t even count visitors ON Lemmy.world properly.
When I link to cars magazine from lemmy it should be kbin.social/m/cars but appeared as kbin.social/c/cars which does not exists.
Other Redditmigration and breathofthewild links do not have this problem.
The “proper” way to link magazines from lemmy would be https://lemmy.world/c/cars@kbin.social - this is supposed to fetch a clone of the kbin magazine but display it in the lemmy.world UI. Using a “c” is correct here, but something still doesn’t work properly for this particular instance.
If you write it as https://kbin.social/m/cars, then you’re directed to the original magazine with the kbin UI.
The same works the other way around too: https://lemmy.world/c/support will open the support-community on lemmy.world in its original state, and https://kbin.social/m/support@lemmy.world will open the LW-support community clone as a magazine on kbin, with the kbin UI. (you might need to copypaste that last link instead of clicking it, as LW seems to “fix” the link by automatically converting it into https://lemmy.world/c/support@lemmy.world )
Long story short, the c/w thing is not the issue as it works for other communities and magazines just fine. Still, somehow the content in this case doesn’t federate properly … maybe someone who can take a look at the actual code might have an idea why? I mean, sooner or later this needs to be fixed. The magazines listed in the original comment are surely not the only ones that are affected, and any magazine that looks dead and abandoned from this side of the Fediverse, is a magazine that won’t gain any subscribers, posts and comments FROM this side of the Fediverse, defeating the idea behind Federation. It slows down growth.
Lemmy server did what I said.
When I use !cars@kbin.social the link produced by Lemmy is not correct.
When I use !breathofthewild@kbin.social the link produced by Lemmy is correct.
Please see the screenshot and note the URLs
Edit: happened yesterday. Not happening now. Both links produced incorrect url.
Edit 2: your reply in the screenshot.
Ah dang … I forgot to factor in that we’re on different instances. For me, a Lemmy.World user, the !cars@kbin.social link creates the correct link (https://lemmy.world/c/cars@kbin.social) but since those exclamation-mark-links create different types of links for different instances, it does not mean that all users get the correct link that way. Apologies, that was my mistake.
Maybe that formatting error is what prevents the magazine from federating properly. The instance creates a link that leads nowhere and therefore doesn’t know from where to fetch the content, so the magazine clone on other instances stays empty.
To mention, I dont think it’s a bug although I might be wrong, the post here from the admins mention they have not really defederated it, but they have removed Kbin communities from Lemmy.world so only users from Kbin can see content here, one side only.
I’m not 100% sure how it all works, but wasn’t it so that magazines / communities and the like only really federate when someone from instance A deliberately looks for them on instance B? So, in that case, people from Lemmy.World opening the links to the magazines you posted would lead to the content federating eventually?
Please correct me if I’m wrong ^^°
You might be right, I am not sure, but Ask Kbin before actually used to federate well and often got people from lemmy.world and lemmy.ml, now I just cant seem to find AskKbin from here.
Huh…you’re right. It’s not in the community list and neither are the others you mentioned. Same for the dropdown menu. And manually creating a link that should work, gets weird results again.
!askkbin@kbin.social gives me the “error” page even tho it should work,
https://kbin.social/m/askkbin works just fine, but with the kbin design