• Zima@kbin.socialOP
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    edit-2
    9 months ago

    I never said that. but thanks for letting us know your true feelings. I’m pretty sure the stalker was offended for the same reason as you are, I’m pretty sure of his real account as well but it’s irrelevant. what’s rellevantt is that the fact that I don’t think socialism is the best system ever doesn’t mean you guys can create alt accoutns just to harrras me.

      • CJOtheReal@ani.social
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        9 months ago

        Bro they literally sold each other to Europeans so he isn’t wrong…

        Shure its not good that they where bought, but man… Its past, Europe doesn’t do that anymore (Noone alive is responsible for it) and Africans still sell each other to each other, slavery is very much alive there still.

        (this is in no way pro slavery)

          • CJOtheReal@ani.social
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            5
            ·
            9 months ago

            No I’m not, that has just absolutely nothing to do with the fact that they where sold by Africans. I said that this is a different part of the story and definitely not good either.

            • FfaerieOxide@kbin.social
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              9 months ago

              I think the fact Europeans enslaved people have very much to do with the OP’s claim that replacing direct enslavement with debt peonage at a later date more than made up for not only the original enslavement but later colonialism.

              Blaming an oppressed group for their own oppression is not a good look.

              • CJOtheReal@ani.social
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                3
                ·
                9 months ago

                You keep trying to put shit into a comment that was never in it. Thats called framing and false facts.

                Oh and paying African countries mostly funds terrorism and war lords, so not paying is more helpful.

                • FfaerieOxide@kbin.social
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  9 months ago

                  Wow, that’s a whole new level of racism than I’ve ever seen.

                  Say, who established those borders you claim are constantly at war?
                  Any chance those were arbitrary lines ignoring local history and cultures by the people OP thinks did nothing to owe reparations over?

                  • CJOtheReal@ani.social
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    2
                    ·
                    9 months ago

                    So stating facts is racism because they may hurt your feelings? Bro are you perhaps a little stupid?

              • Zima@kbin.socialOP
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                9 months ago

                You keep trying to inverse/distort my claims. What is this fabrication about debt peonage? How does it relate to my actual statement?

                • HubertManne@kbin.social
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  ·
                  9 months ago

                  I think he assume you read the comment he put in his comment when you where commenting. Which is pretty short and this is it:

                  "They paid the moral debt with interest when they forced Africa to stop enslaving their own people to sell them.

                  Anyone who doesn’t know this is unqualified to speak about it or is being dishonest."

                  I do get your point which was europe had stopped doing slavery themselves (tacitly given peasants, indentured servitude, wager slavery [which under globalism increased greatly]) but were fine buying them as a commodity and then just deciding they can commoditization the whole race given how different they looked (one reason natives were not enslaved on that scale). Thing with commoditization slavery is it really treated slaves like a commodity and was more brutal than the type of slavery taking place in africa and more seen in history. For anyone or anyone I am in no way condoing or endorsing slavery but it is a complicated historical subject but I would rather have been a slave in many cultures than the typical american colony one or a typical dark ages peasant.

                  • Zima@kbin.socialOP
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    9 months ago

                    I get that my comment was too brief so it can be misunderstood, and gives more room when someone wants to distort it. i ellaborated on it here below but in short I was talking about all the people that actually sailed to africa and went to war with pirates and africans that wouldn’t stop ensalving their neighbors. this took many years. a lot of money and many european lives.

      • Zima@kbin.socialOP
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        9 months ago

        Why don’t you quote what I said instead of your inversed/distorted version of it?

        • Pinky Floyd@pleroma.payfrit.com
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          9 months ago

          @Zima @FfaerieOxide regardless what you said or didn’t say, this is the fediverse. mute/block them and move on, it’s really all you can do.

          if you’re accountable to what you say then what do you care if others try to distort it? the truth is out there.

          • Zima@kbin.socialOP
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            4
            ·
            edit-2
            9 months ago

            yes. as long as it’s legimitate users. the moment they start creating fuckyou\ alt accounts just to harras I think they should be banned.

              • Zima@kbin.socialOP
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                6
                ·
                9 months ago

                kbin admins/global mods. that’s what I’m trying to find out from this post.

                • Pinky Floyd@pleroma.payfrit.com
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  4
                  ·
                  9 months ago

                  @Zima @FfaerieOxide stop being so silly. why would you come onto the internets, publicly post stuff that’s apparently a little chaotic, and then not expect some backlash…?

                  and then you expect strangers to protect you from the free service they are paying for you to use…? why don’t you just get better with your words? or post in places that are more supportive of whatever opinions you’re promoting? or start your own instance?

                  https://kbin.social/contact

                  i’m really getting a kick out of this.

                  • Zima@kbin.socialOP
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    4
                    ·
                    9 months ago

                    I don’t think that having some semblance of knowledge of history is chaotic. I do think that if admins want this instance to trhive they woudl address this types of issues if they have the resources. It doesn’t matter if you don’t agree.