• SamC@lemmy.nz
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    1 year ago

    Personally, I think while “politics” is something that should be defined broadly, and almost all of those posts are political in some sense, it doesn’t really make sense to split those out into a different community. I think there’s a reasonably clear line between “party/parliamentary politics” and everything else. But there’s not between “politics in general” and everything else.

    I guess I would flip it’s on it’s head and ask “What would be allowed in the NZ sub?” You’re really left with meme posts, personal stories, maybe entertainment (in some cases!) and things that are really very “light”. And also, it wouldn’t be clear a lot of the time whether something qualifies as “politics”.

    One of the problems I had with r/nz (and some other subs) is that their rules got so strict, I basically gave up posting because chances are anything I posted would be deleted (sometimes when it didn’t actually break the rules, but the mods didn’t have time to look carefully at the post to decide if it did). It makes some sense to have more rules in a larger community, because otherwise you end up flooded with low effort posts or whatever. But here, if posts get locked/deleted/whatever, people are probably just not going to bother. Personally, I don’t want to have to think through a bunch of rules to decide where I post something, so in the end I’ll probably either post on another instance, or not post it at all.

    Edit: to make it a bit clearer, and reference what others have mentioned, people are saying #1 and #4 are political, but #2 is not. But surely racism is a political issue, not to mention the international relations component (the boundaries of countries are largely drawn politically). I know people will argue against that, but it seems to me there’s also a pretty good argument that it is political.

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      1 year ago

      Yeah I agree with @SamC.

      To me, all the examples listed should be allowed on c/NZ and we should only enforce party politics/party policy/party attack discussions move to c/politics.

      • witless@lemmy.nz
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        1 year ago

        I’m with you on this: things to do directly with political parties and politicians go under politics, everything else under the more generic NZ.

    • Dave@lemmy.nzM
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      1 year ago

      One of the problems I had with r/nz (and some other subs) is that their rules got so strict, I basically gave up posting because chances are anything I posted would be deleted

      Is one option here to encourage government-related posts to go into !politics, but not lock them when they end up in the wrong place?

      Edit: to make it a bit clearer, and reference what others have mentioned, people are saying #1 and #4 are political, but #2 is not. But surely racism is a political issue, not to mention the international relations component (the boundaries of countries are largely drawn politically). I know people will argue against that, but it seems to me there’s also a pretty good argument that it is political.

      I guess 1 and 4 are something the Government has done (or not done), while #2 is not related to our government.