To use political jargon, Nikki Haley—who has lost primary contests in Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, and her home state of South Carolina—does not have a snow ball’s chance in hell of winning the GOP nomination for president. Still, she is apparently intent on not going down without a fight, and to that end, the former governor has a message for voters: Anyone who votes for Donald Trump has a death wish for America.

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      I didn’t see that in OPs comment. Would you mind explaining where you gathered that from?

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        This cat has been lumping 90% of the country together for months now, we’ve gone back and forth on it before. There seem to be zero colors asides black and white in his eyes.

        I’ve been curious where the hell he came from for awhile now.

        It should be pretty damn clear there’s differences between an outright fascist and a generic pro-business idiot.

        edit for typo

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          Wonder if them and that ozma person are the same or just part of the same group of idiots? They both give bad takes trying to convince people to either not vote or vote third party. Which means they are either the mentally challenged from r/libertarian and/or r/centrist or outright Trump lovers trying to masquerade as something else.

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            ozma isn’t as bad imo.

            This cat is a malicious commenter that shits on almost everything. ozma posts news articles and pushes on some genuinely important issues.

            I argue with ozma from time to time, I definitely don’t always agree with their stances, but I have no real problems with them. I think people like that are important in a healthy democracy. Not a troll imo.

            This one though, has me doubting sometimes.

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      Haley’s domestic policy stance is basically the same as Trump’s. They do differ on foreign policy, and Haley is arguably more sane as she isn’t obviously supporting Putin’s goals.

      It’s not “extremist” to say that two candidates from the Republican party are similar - they are in fact, similar. Haley’s campaign tagline is basically “not Trump”.

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        Haley does not have the Heritage Foundation’s 2025 plan in the wings. She would probably not have done a Jan 6th. If you can’t see the difference between a fascist and a shitty Mitch McConnell type, the problem with our country is you.

        Nuance and details are important. People’s bullshit gut checks based on their feelings are not.

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          Haley does not have the Heritage Foundation’s 2025 plan in the wings.

          [citation needed]

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      Pointing out that the Democrats are bad is not the same as saying ‘both sides are the same’. Sure, Biden is infinitely better than the alternative, but it would be really nice to have some actually good options instead of just lesser evil

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        Dude’s comment was clearly saying that Trump and Haley were the same. If someone cannot see the very clear and obvious differences between the two, their brainwashing has been strong.

        Except I wonder if its brainwashing or just trolling.

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          Lol the trump x Haley comparison is irrelevant

          First because she never really had a chance to win the primaries against the maga cult

          And second because even if she did, being part of the republican party these days is more than enough reason to assume she’s a fascist asshole. Does it matter if she’s a slightly less bad fascist asshole? (And if you wanna reduce it to “everyone I don’t like is all the same” that’s fine with me)

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            If you don’t acknowledge the repubs trying to fight against the fascist slide inside their own party, you’re just helping fascists get what they want. They’re doing a political purge. This should be remembered.

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              If this is republicans trying to purge their ranks, they’re doing a shit job of it by putting forth a candidate who openly says she’s going to pardon the fascist being “purged” for the sake of moving on and unity. That alone is reason enough to not buy them being different enough to care.

              Until they’re willing to crush that wing of the party, they’re still complicit. And that’s not me helping the fascists, that’s me not letting the less extreme wing cover for the alt-reich wing they’ve been cozying up to for years. Hell, the Nazis are openly hanging out with them at cpac…

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                Probably don’t want to just believe that her words reflect her stances. Much like McConnell, she’ll say whatever she thinks she needs to say to help accomplish her personal goals.

                World is a complicated place, especially when you’re trying to not fall quickly to a purge, which is pretty clearly a goal she has. Otherwise she’d be gone by now.

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                  Honestly, at some point the “good” republicans are probably going to have to jump ship and start a new party, because the republican base has shown they’re too focused on the trumpist candidates. I’m not confident that any of them have the stones to do it, though. But maybe if they get spanked in November they’ll finally see the writing on the wall.