Seriously what the fuck is this? Googling this specifically because someone in my fam shared a boycott list including Shein and Temu and I thought hang on, what are they doing to fund the genocide in Israel, and saw that it was a boycott for the very real Uyghur genocide
I was actually going to post a more vague version of this.
Every time I find myself in an argument online, I straight up can’t find the information that existed at the time. Things I’ve seen. From sources I was familiar with.
I really don’t know how to circumvent this problem. Even if I VPNed into a good source, I couldn’t copy/paste it for a lib because the link won’t work for them and they will
I’m surprised articles about the pied piper strategy still exist.
Yandex.com is the Russian Google and it will very happily give anti American articles
https://yandex.com/search/touch/?text=uyghur+genocide+cia
Nice. Although my arguing with libs days are over. Unless they wander in here
Just learned about this for the first time, crazy
Yup. Hillary elevated trump and he beat her. People who donate to democrats can and will have their money funnelled into crazy right wing campaigns.
Then they have the nerve to turn around and complain when the ®'s do it.
If you know when you saw it, you can try filtering by the date range, if it shows up. That’s what I do when I need to prove that the CDC and CNN created virtually every anti-mask conspiracy talking point in early 2020.
Do libs just say “that’s old shit”?
Never in the 50 year history of the internet has anyone ever been presented with evidence and changed their mind.
No, they usually say that the recommendations changed because of new evidence. What evidence existed at the time that wearing a mask could increase your chances of catching a respiratory illness (as was claimed by the CDC), they never say. The more self-aware ones will acknowledge that they lied, but will still defend it on the basis of, “They were trying to preserve masks for healthcare workers” which is partially true, but anyone who thinks that’s a valid reason for betraying public trust should get the wall. Even when they see that they were lied to and that it caused countless deaths, they still make excuses for the people they perceive to be on their “team” and try to shift the blame entirely onto the other side. “At least the CDC didn’t tell people to drink bleach, like Trump did!” They simply apply the same mental framework they use when confronted with the Iraq war or the genocide of Palestinians or mass incarceration or mass surveillance or any number of other things. There are literally no limits to lesser evilist brainworms, and no matter how well you cite your claims, they’ll look at you like a conspiracy theorist for bringing it up instead of letting them memory-hole it. Libs want crimes like that to be buried and forgotten and mentioning the truth is uncivil, even if they know the truth, they want to pretend it didn’t happen. If they were honest, they’d prefer it if you were an anti-mask chud because that just reaffirms their worldview and allows them to pretend that they uphold scientific values.
We’re never going to win unless these people personally suffer enough under capitalism. And as we have seen for the last 30 years, all it takes is nice words, The Masked Singer being on air, and junk food to keep people “happy”.
I wish I could move to another solar system
I’ve come to the conclusion that liberals are orders of magnitude more guilty than “tankies” at doing whataboutism but they don’t call it that when they do it and literally nobody calls them out on it, including tankies. “lesser of two evils” is no different than whataboutism, except usually on much flimsier empirical grounds than when communists do it.
Absolutely, they won’t allow any criticism of the democrats without shifting the conversation to Trump. Ofc there are times when bringing up another topic for context is relevant to the conversation, and times where it’s not, which is why shouting “Whataboutism!” at everything is dumb and just an attempt to exert control over what topics are allowed to be discussed.
If the question you’re trying to answer is, “Should I vote for Biden or for Trump?” then bringing up Trump’s shit in response to criticism of Biden is fair. The problem is that liberals are incapable of having a political conversation that doesn’t center that question, to the exclusion of all other options and all facts and analysis that aren’t relevant to that question. The fact that the CDC betrayed public trust and caused countless preventable deaths doesn’t fit neatly into that question, so that fact is not to be brought up in conversation, and if it is, then it must be because the person bringing it up is trying to make an argument for voting for Trump, because that is the limit to liberals’ perception of reality.
I don’t know if it’s AI or just general enshitification, but I used to be able to find what I was looking for pretty quickly on the Goog until relatively recently. Now it seems like I have to fight it to get what I want.