While rebutting another post here on Lemmy, I ran into this. This says exactly what I want to say.

I am not a friend of Biden’s Administration. I think they drug their feet over a variety of things ranging from holding Trump and his goons accountable for January 6th through rulemaking on issues like OTC Birth Control and abortion rights, and yes, I think he’s too quick to please big business. But then I remember what the alternative is, and … well, disappointed in Biden or not, I’m voting for him. Because my wife is a Black bisexual goth woman, four strikes under Team Pepe’s tent. And I have my own strikes for marrying her as a White dude, and respecting her right to not have kids since she doesn’t want them is another strike against me. And I care about my Non-Christian, Gay, Transgender, and Minority friends, and will never willingly subject them to Team Pepe.

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    I’ll be one of the first to admit, I don’t like Biden. But, if you need to be convinced that he’s better than Trump, you’re an absolute buffoon!! Trump is worse than the shit you stepped on, on your walk. Trump is the worst thing to ever happen to the American presidency. He’s the closest we’ll get to Adolf Hitler and he relishes in that. He thinks it makes him “a bad boy” or someone moving against the curve…and he’s right, he’s moving against the curve. He’s moving against it in 4 straight lines that will bend consecutively in 90° angles to the right. My point is, TRUMP IS NAZI SCUM WHO’S WORSE THAN THE SHIT ON YOUR HEEL

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      Why do you always assume we have to be convinced he’s not as bad as Trump? That’s obvious.

      What unconvinced voters need to be given isn’t fear “vote for us or the worse guy wins!”, it’s hope. What is the Biden administration doing to improve the lives of the working class? Not just saying, but accomplishing? There are some small wins they’ve done, even if they’re a far cry from what was promised in 2020. Focus on that. The few people that got or are getting student loan forgiveness. The baby steps towards making medicine affordable. The acknowledgement that man-made climate change is real.

      “Vote for us or else!” is not inspiring.

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        It’s not inspiring in the slightest bit. We are in a terrible position and we have been for my entire life and beyond. A 2 party system does not work because ultimately that 2 party system becomes the rich vs the poor.

        We need 3rd, 4th and 5th party candidates not just holding office, but in the Supreme Court. We need term limits at all levels of government. We need free healthcare for all residents. We need to take corporate interests and money out of Washington. We need to erase these cockamamie gerrymandered voting maps and implement fair elections and ensure easy access to voting for all eligible citizens. We need to invest in more in education and less in bombs and super-soldier police. We need to hold elected officials accountable for their actions and ensure transparency in government processes. We need to elect leaders who prioritize unity, civil discourse, and the well-being of all citizens. We need to put all the issues up for votes and stop letting politicians decide our present and our future.

        There’s a lot we need to do and it’s going to take a long while time and sustained effort to create a lasting change.

        But, it’s 2024 and this is our current system and this year we have one of two choices: Joe Biden or Donnie Dickhead. So this year we have to accept that it’s going to have to be one of the two of them as president. But when you’re voting don’t just vote party lines, look into local politics and politicians. Vote in primaries. Vote period. Or, run if you feel so inclined.

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      Yeah, there are some leftists that try drawing the line at silly points like “oh I won’t vote for someone who supports genocide” but really what’s the big deal? Genocides happen, I think they’re kind of fun sounding. I’m thinking about moving to Israel and helping the IDF finish their extermination of the barbaric “human animals”/natives that have infested their holy land. Biden has self-identified as a Zionist many times before, and I think that’s a beautiful thing. I bet he’d take up arms with me against the parasites if he was still fully sentient. He’s definitely trying his best as president to help them finish cleaning up the trash.

      Oh, and yeah only Trump is a fascist. None of the above sounds anything like fascism, don’t worry.

      /s

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        Show me proof of Genocide or stop claiming it’s happening. Just because you can use the word doesn’t mean it’s true. No one has deemed what the IDF has done to be genocide at this point.

        Only three genocides in history have been officially recognized under the definition of the term in the 1948 Genocide Convention and led to trials in international criminal tribunals: one against Cham Muslim and ethnic Vietnamese perpetrated by Khmer Rouge leaders in Cambodia in the 1970s, the 1994 Rwandan genocide, and the 1995 Srebrenica Massacre in Bosnia. (The Holocaust occurred before the adoption of the 1948 Convention.) The mass killings of the Yazidis by ISIS in Iraq and of the Rohingya in Myanmar have been recognized as genocide by the United Nations as a whole. Though the US called the killing of Black Africans in the Sudanese region of Darfur between 2003 and 2005 “genocide,” a UN investigation ruled it was not genocide.

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          Yeah, want to know why the international community doesn’t call the Palestinian genocide a genocide? Because Israel and the U.S reject it lmfao. You’re such a fucking bootlicker.

          The only half-coherent argument that some academics make against the genocide classification is that it’s instead an ethnic cleansing. Nobody (except the U.S and Israel) thinks Israel isn’t trying to exterminate the natives.

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_genocide_accusation

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            So… instead of providing some kind of actual proof or evidence of your argument, you insult me and post a relatively useless link to a wikipedia article that wouldn’t pass the sniff test in high school.

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              First time using Wikipedia? There are actually a dozen resources at the bottom. Use those.

              Anyway, you didn’t address anything I actually said. You sit back as Israel invades, bombs, and slaughters thousands upon thousands of children for the purposes of wiping out a native people, and you argue about the semantics of genocide. It’s so fucking pathetic, people did the same thing during the Holocaust to try to argue against U.S intervention and it fucking worked, the only reason we intervened was Japan bombing pearl harbor.

              Genocide apologists like yourself should go spend a day actually experiencing the fucking genocide, then maybe you’ll have an ounce of compassion. It just sucks having you out here, potentially changing public sentiment away from helping those being genocided. The difference between an indifferent bystander and a genocide enabler is not as large as you’d probably imagine, being the former yourself.

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                You jump to conclusions with weak arguments and result to insults instead of listening to what I’m saying.

                The information I provided isn’t false and neither is yours. There’s some differing opinions on the definitions of genocide. In this case, I would agree that it hasn’t really met that threshold. By the text book definition. That’s all.

                It’s not that it’s not terrible. All war is terrible. But I also am of the opinion that violence is part of nature. I accept it as part of life.

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                  There’s a misconception among western intellectuals that emotion and intellect are juxtaposed, that your indifference towards the genocide that is taking place is somehow a virtue. It’s not. It’s your inability to actually comprehend what is going on. If you lived the life of a Palestinian you wouldn’t just be mad, you’d be fucking helpless, and your inability to internalize that and have it impact your view on the world is a common human failing.

                  If the bombs Israel purposefully dropped on civilians killed someone you cared about, you wouldn’t be on here arguing against people who use the word genocide. People you yourself admit aren’t actually saying anything wrong. You’re trying to move people who are literally just stating facts about the world in an emotionally charged way away from intense language. To what end? Do you actually care? Probably not.

                  You should develop some empathy. It’s not a weakness.

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      Biden is actively supporting Nazi style Genocide right now.

      But not the figurative one. Literal Nazi Genocide.

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          Don’t forget that he actually told an interviewer that Israel should “finish the job”.

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          Israel recently did the biggest land grab in like 30 years under Joe Biden. Not under Donald Trump. Once again there is no difference except Biden probably being worse.

          Trump is a massive moron but he is not stupid enough to escalate into World War 3.

          In fact he has already proven he is not that stupid because after the Suleimani assasination Iran retaliated. And Trump then cut off the escalation.

          An Abrupt Move That Stunned Aides: Inside Trump’s Aborted Attack on Iran

          But barely three hours later, Mr. Trump had changed his mind. Without consulting his vice president, secretary of state or national security adviser, he reversed himself and, with ships readying missiles and airplanes already in the skies, told the Pentagon to call off the airstrikes with only 10 minutes to go. When Vice President Mike Pence and other officials returned to the White House for what they expected would be a long night of monitoring a military operation, they were stunned to learn the attack was off.

          That about-face, so typically impulsive, instinctive and removed from any process, proved a decision point for a president who has often threatened to “totally destroy” enemies but at the same time has promised to extricate the United States from Middle East wars. It revealed a commander in chief more cautious than critics have assumed, yet underscored the limited options in a confrontation he had set in motion.

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            I mean, we all get it. But Biden is worse? What makes you possibly think trump will make smarter and more humane decisions for the Palestinian people?

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              Have you… Have you seen what Biden has done over the last 6 months? We’re talking literal Holocaust Nazi concentration camp extermination of Palestinians.

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                    Which is it? Israel or Biden? Isreal cries to us that they need arms so we supply them, ISREAL then goes nutty with absolutely no regard for life.

                    Biden is like Charlie Brown. He keeps going for that football and Lucy Naziyahoo keeps pulling it away (this time will be different Mr Biden we’ll be more careful.)

                    Biden is not committing the genocide but he IS absolutely being played for a fool and he sure looks to be one.

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                Why are you pretending Biden is personally responsible and why do you believe the serial pardoner of war criminals would be better?

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            And Biden’s administration sanctioned Israel’s settlers for doing those things, while Trump is the man who pardoned multiple war criminals and promised to ban Palestinians from USA

            Trump is a moron who don’t understand escalation. If anything, Biden’s handling of Iran’s attack on Israel and negotiations shows he actually knows what he’s doing because both sides have agreed to deescalate after mutual missile attacks on each other’s soil. Trump choosing not to escalate singlehandedly is not a point in his favor, especially since he probably got yelled at for hours about the dangers and then chickened out.