recent: tears of the kingdom, or as i like to call it botw 1.2, its the same thing all over again just with one or two added gimicks, the open world is dead, npcs are boring and nintendo just got away with it like that

not so recent: i cant stand persona 5, joker and his entourage are annoying teenagers, the time management is a horrible gameplay addition and the artstyle is just a visual overstimulation

with that being said,~~ plz dont kill me~~

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    This will be an extremely hot take for some: Almost all recent online games are complete garbage that solely exist to make profit and create addicted user bases and they hurt what videogames truly are, a revolutionary and interactive form of art.

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      This is why I can basically only play old games or indies. Games shouldn’t feel like work or require me to pay tons of money. I play games to have fun, which I guess is a radical idea now.

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        games shouldn’t feel like work

        Oh, boy. Let me tell you about Eve Online, aka, Excel Spreadsheet Simulator. You would LOVE that game! lol

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        I also mainly just post old games and indies, too. Modern games for the most part are pretty garbage due to the way they are designed to take all your money.

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          I have liked a lot of indies lately as well, but there have been a ton of good AAA games recently, for me at least. Elden Ring, TotK, Star Wars Jedi Survivor, Hogwarts Legacy, God of War Ragnarok, to name a few.

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      Potentially worded a bit abrasively but…kinda yeah. They rely so heavily on fomo, gacha, and other skinner box tricks to keep you playing other than FUN. Just remember what happened to Titanfall 2: "ohhh it was SO FUN it just didn’t have the events and grinding and stuff I wanted >:( "

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        How dare they keep the chores out of my fun videogame. Now how am I going to press my dopamine button?!? Huh?!? Think it’s just gonna happen cause I grapple 180 no scoped a guy with a kraber???

        I need checklists! Grind! If the game isn’t a part time job I can’t even conceptualize it being fun!

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    Honestly, Stardew Valley for me. I’ve tried it a couple times and it just didn’t work for me. I wanted to like it, and I like the idea of it, but in practice, I hated the time management aspect and not being able to just run around and do as much as I wanted in a day (I haven’t played on PC with mods; I know there’s at least one or two that let you change that). I also hated the fishing. 🙃

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      As someone who loves stardew (I have 1000+ hours in it) I can see what you mean. I hope you’ll find mods you like, but maybe it’s just better to try other games like sun haven? Never played it myself but I read it eliminates exactly this time managing thing stardew has. And yeah, the fishing is hard. I heard “The fishing in Stardew is the souls-like in farming Minigames” a lot and I think it’s true.

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      The game is kind of a chore at first when you have to manually water your crops. Once you’re more established and have sprinklers you can really put a lot of the farming on autopilot.

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      I can see why the time mechanic is there but I agree it can be a negative point to the game. You’re not the first person I see complaining about this.

      I liked the game enough but needing to get a rare fish that can only be fished at certain season, certain time period and only when raining to complete quests was annoying, as was needing to get out of the dungeon while I was having a good run because of time. It would have been better if there were alternative means to get the fish, like buying from the fisherman, and the option to camp in the dungeon.

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      I actually feel like Harvest Moon was more chill and relaxing. Stardew Valley stressed me out because I felt like if I didn’t manage my time properly I was doing it wrong which felt weird given the game’s message about leaving the demanding stressful work life of the city behind.

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    Didn’t see anyone else mention it, so I’ll say MMOs. Pretty much all of them. WoW, FFXIV, Guild Wars 2, Star Wars one (can’t remember the name). I really like the idea of MMOs, having a huge shared world that feels alive, tons of lore, epic quests, but I just find the gameplay loop so boring. They just feel like endless busywork to me.

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      The content and world in MMOs feels superficial. I much prefer a tightly constructed narrative with deep, meaningful character development. The Last Of Us is a great example of this.

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      I recently tried to play MH: World and bounced so hard. They really need to consider how to ease new players to the genre into the game. The first hour included so much exposition, paragraphs of text, and detailed menu tutorials before I really had any context for why anything is important. I know that the games have always been this way, but it felt lazy.

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        Got through all of that to play with a friend cuz we played the beta together and thought it would be promising

        We were so disappointed we spent less time playing together than we did on the initial text/cutscenes.

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    Souls games.

    I like difficult games but I just don’t enjoy the gameplay of Souls games. They feel sluggish and repetitive.

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      Please give sekiro a try if you ever get a chance. It’s like dark souls but for people like us that want good fun gameplay instead of constant bs :D

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      Have you tried Nioh/Wolong? While I really like the Souls games for the exploration and world design I much prefer the faster and more complex combat of the Nioh games.

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        I tried Nioh, I think last I remember I came up against a boss that could instantly kill me in a single attack, at the end of a gauntlet of enemies. It wasn’t even that far into the game, so I just dropped it since it was clearly the exact kind of bullshit difficulty that Dark Souls is known for.

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      I played Elden Ring for 2 hours and then refunded it. I don’t like that combat style at all.

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        Finally scored a PS5 a month ago and bought elden ring with it. Same tbh. I am okay with the idea of patterns and reading telegraphed fights but it just feels awkward.

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    I just got done with Subnautica. Man, either I just had shit luck, or that game does NOT respect your time. It’s infuriating to me when I know exactly what I need to do to progress, but I’m blocked by not being able to find a single damn rock out in a giant ocean. I dug the story, but man I was glad to be done with it.

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      I enjoyed some parts of it, but I’m the same way. I was often scouting the world for that one piece of that one vehicle option so I could continue playing the actual game. Ended up spending as much time reading online guides and maps as actually playing.

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    Any MOBA really, particularly League of Legends. A number of my friends played these obsessively, but I could just never get into it. I’ve sat in on quite a few Discord calls with people playing this game and I gotta say, not once did anyone ever sound like they were having fun. I’m not sure what it is, but it just seems like the genre attracts toxicity like no other, especially when playing with strangers. On the occasions I tried them myself, the gameplay just wasn’t engaging enough for me to want to put in the tremendous amount of time necessary to become somewhat decent at the game.

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      Yeah I could never get into MOBAs either. Weird thing is I thought my issue was with the control scheme and how abilities are assigned to number keys, but I picked up Diablo IV and I’ve gotta say I don’t mind it at all. Maybe its an implementation thing since Diablo is a very different type of game, but overall I agree with this. Also gives me overwatch vibes because everyone picks based off what their enemy team picks and get mald when your team isn’t 100% efficient. Not for me personally

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      And a single round takes so long! I don’t know how people have fun with these.

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        Hots was great in this regard, matches would usually end within 20ish minutes. I really miss the golden days of that game, had tons of fun with it.

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        Honestly I kind of like the long matches, but it definitely negatively affects how often I play. For Dota especially it feels like if I’m going to queue I have to be prepared for an hour long game, and while I don’t necessarily have a problem with that, I’m not always feeling it.

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    For me botw was that game. I didn’t like the gameplay and many aspects of the game design. In contrast, I’m enjoying totk a lot more. It improved on a few aspects I didn’t like and the gameplay feels closer to what I want in a Zelda game. Overall I’d still prefer them to go in a different direction with the series though.

    But in general, I’m not a fan of a lot of currently popular elements. I don’t need big, open worlds with a lot to do, that just gives me FOMO. I don’t want to build and manage stuff, and make a lot of decisions in my adventure game, I just want a good story and fun traversal and combat. And I don’t need 50+h of gameplay, I don’t have that much time and I usually start burning out after the 20h mark anyway.

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      You should try world if you can. Rise has too much systems bloat in my opinion. World was my first monster hunter and I have over 200 hours and I am still not done. Rise added so much stuff with palicos and palamutes that I couldn’t be bothered to do. It tipped the scales just a bit too much towards systems bloat in my opinion. I haven’t played generations but from my understanding, it isn’t as modernised as the current iterations of monster hunter so that may be causing you some friction.

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    Counterstrike. I was raised on Unreal Tournament and Battlefield 1942/Vietnam, every iteration of CS I’ve tried is just slow and boring comparatively. Doesn’t help that the maps and guns never change either. I’ll probably give it a go again with CS2 but I’m not expecting anything different.

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      Speaking as a player with thousands and thousands of hours in CS… I definitely get why it doesn’t appeal to some people. But what you describe about it is exactly why I and so many other people like it. The game changes very little, and pretty much only gives you guns and grenades as weapons, no fancy abilities or anything like most modern titles.

      That unchanging-ness and limited toolset means that raw strategy and to a lesser degree reflexes are the only ways to get ahead. With the map designs set in stone, many with decades of refinement and balance adjustments, you get intimately familiar with every door, corner, and corridor. It becomes much more about predicting what the other team will do and strategizing against it, rather than just grappling with the game and mechanics.

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        Super Hero mod for 1.6 was awesome, though. Zipping around the map like Spider-Man with a rifle was so fun.

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    Fallout: NV and Skyrim. People kept recommending them to me but neither really clicked. I put about 20 hours into each before just kinda dropping them and not looking back. Even tried mods since everyone says they’re better modded, but just found I was spending more time modding the games than playing them. Maybe Bethesda games just aren’t my thing.

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      I agree about Skyrim. The entire world feels dead, the npcs are lifeless. It’s really hard for me to feel the world and the story. The Witcher 3 came out only 4 years later and it’s several orders of magnitude better to me.

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      I agree wholeheartedly. I don’t feel like Bethesda has innovated with their RPGs in a single meaningful way since Oblivion. Every single game they make just feels buggy and samey, and the “systems” don’t make up for the synthetic quality. Games like Prey, Stalker, The Witcher or Elden Ring all take various approaches to the idea of an open ended gameplay experience and they all do it better than Bethesda’s games.

      Here’s hoping Starfield does something genuinely refreshing.

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        It’s kind of odd the New Vegas is singled out here, because I’d agree that both Fallout 3 and 4 have these issues to varying degrees, but New Vegas was not made by Bethesda. Completely different team of writers and developers than the Fallout 3 and 4 teams.

        So much so, that there is quite a heated schism between FNV and Fallout 3 & 4 fandoms.

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    Destiny 2! The game is total trash. The combat is so fucking boring, its just nothing but bullet sponge bosses with simple ass mechanics.

    I know that lots of people love it but man I do not understand lol

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      I’ve played Destiny 2 religiously throughout Warmind up to Shadowkeep, but after giving it some thought, I feel like I agree with you. Most of the fun I’ve had in that game was because I played it with my friends. We were happy messing around and shooting at each other’s backsides and maybe occasionally getting something done in the scarce 3-player content there was, kind of like a glorified hangout space, but if I had to play it by myself? I don’t know, chief. I do love the feel of the guns and the lore (up to a certain point), but I wouldn’t call the game itself a good time.

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    DOTA, or any MOBA. I’m an old-school RTS fan and for whatever reason these games slide off me like water off a duck’s back, despite being told multiple times from different folks that I’d probably like them.

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      I used to play LoL back in 2012 or so but got tired of not being able to play as I wanted so I left and never looked back.

      Having to choose characters based on the needed role was bad enough, not being allowed to explore new builds and possibilities but what the current meta dictated was so ridiculous. I felt some vindication when a build I was exploring later turned out to be considered too powerful and got reworked (AP Yi, fuck you those who shit on me when I bought the magic ring as my first item).

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    I LOVE RPGs and open world games. Love the Fallouts (all of them except 76), elder scrolls, dragon age, old baldurs gates, etc. Basically every game that’s apparently indicative of liking the Witcher 3. But holy hell, I’ve played it 4x and can only get 10 hours or so into it before I have to turn it off. I have no idea why honestly, because every thing about it screams that I’ll love it.

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      For me it was definitely the combat. I’m not sure why exactly but the movement and attacks feel “off”. I can stand only a few encounters and and then I’m out.

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      For me its Bloodborne.

      Best game of all time, except for all the walking back to the bosses, vial system, framerate drops, shonky multiplayer.

      But damn its so good.

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        Ugh, that framerate. I’m a huge FromSoft fan and Bloodborne is at the very bottom of my Soulslike tier list because there isn’t actually a way to play it that doesn’t completely suck.

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      I had the same issue with every Witcher game… I had to start each of them a few times, to get totally hooked on it on the 3rd try usually, no idea why.

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    Honestly, Animal Crossing (new & old). What’s sad is it really is a fun game if you have a good attention span and no depression. I have a hard time keeping basic routines so logging into a game regularly was really challenging for me. By the time I’m reminded of the game it’d be weeks or months since I touched it. In the old game this meant everything you worked on has been undone and you have roaches. The newer one is better about overgrowing weeds and I haven’t got roaches yet, but the neighbors notice your disappearance and have some things to say about it. Last time I logged on one of the characters was so personally slighted by my disappearance I just logged out after the conversation. I haven’t logged on since. When I can keep up with it, it’s fun and cute. When I can’t I’m made to feel guilty for hurting the feelings of an unsympathetic AI. At least my friends in real life understand depression and it’s ability to steal my motivation. I do miss Sherb tho.