Formerlyfarman [none/use name]

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  • Some Obama regime bigshot also met with ISIS leaders, I think it was Jhon Kerry? the war nerd podcast had an audio were they were they were hanging out and he asked them to change their slogan about genociding the alawites and christians, and they said “but we really want to do that” and Obama muppet was like, “i know, and it’s fine, but kept it on the dow low.” And the ISIS guys were like “but saying it motivates the recruits”

    Also the iran deal was a sham, the Obama regime even threatened European companies against investing in iran after the deal was supposedly in effect. You have fallen for propaganda Obama was the worst one if we go by death count, worse than bush even.





  • Most people? I know there were farmers in the Altai before there were nomads. If anything Manchuria would be more temperate. Nomadism is the most modern mode of production. The first true nomads were the Iranians. Before that the steppes were peopled by agro pastoralists, they keep herds yes, but without large enough horses, their herds are limited in size so they have to farm. Also as far as I can remember there are no historical nomads native to Manchuria, they jurchens for example were agro pastoralists.

    It’s purpule guys that are new here.

    So I looked it up, millet agriculture seems to have spread to the Liao and Amur rivers in the 4 th Milenium.

    Also, by 500bc iron tools and large horses are widespread, they even have seed drills, there should be no significant difference in productivity when compared to the days of Arthur young. Edit: Aparently I’m wrong and while that is the case for west asia, and Africa the ironage took longer in east asia, 500 bc is still bronze age in Manchuria, the are still millet farmers tho.

    The differences are mainly due to local demográfico conditions, state capacity, war making, and so on.



  • No. Both the cpu and videocard each have a power draw of about 220 w. Plus the cooler, motherboard, other hardrives, fans, etc. 500w is cutting It way too close.

    Even then, as other users pointed out a bad psu will fry your other componentes.

    There was recently a controversy where high end Intel processors of the 13 and 14 gens have a manufacture defect that causes them to go bad in a year or so. That includes the one you like. Also the econ cores in Intel processors have been known to break shit. So i personally would avoid those.

    The ryzen 7800x is about as good, and cheaper, the ryzen 7800x3d Is better but costlier.

    Personally i think both of those processors are overkill for a 4070, if your intended use Is gaming.










  • I get what you mean. As other people in the tread have said, the relationship between a proletarian and production is wage labor. Mobility is indeed an important part of that, as well as being a nominally free individual. So it’s not so much what job they are doing, or their other social relationships.

    But these liminal examples do rise the concern that our definitions can be too rigid.

    I thought of 2 other related points between my last post and this one. The first is about tenancy. As the marginal productivity of agricultural workers falls, the become landless, and eventually end up working the land for a fee or corvee. The same conditions that correlate with tenancy also do so with proletarisation, the difference in outcomes for different regions seems to be related to mobility, and the development of nearby urban networks.

    The second was about eastern European serfs, who had become tenants, tied to the land and owed the landlord a corvee. But as agricultural productivity fell with respect to labor productivity on urban areas, landlords decided it was more profitable to let the serfs work in the city and then pay them a fee. So these people belonged to 2 different contexts, on the one hand their relationship to production was that of proletarians, on the other they were also explored by the landlord who had customary rights over them.

    This is another example of how definitions can become too rigid, and can’t represent Al the nuances of the real world. At the same time clear definitions help us understand the difference in this case between the material and customary relationships. In this example the landlords went to the dustbin of history because they no longer had an economic base.


  • I think both are the products of vastly different demographic and productive contexts. The slave is economically viable when the difference between the average productivity of labor(which is the value produced by labor) and the marginal productivity of labor(which liberal economists consider equal to the wage, they are wrong but for simplicity let’s say they are close enough) is very low. This forces the overlord to apply maximum coercion in order to extract surplus. But coercion is expensive, so as the gap between these 2 quantities grows naked coercion is relaxed. Until you get to a “free market”. But even the reserve army of labor is a form of coercion since it serves too keep wages under the mpl.

    So from an economic perspective being a slave and a proletariat are at opposite ends of economic conditions.

    Note that this gap is defined by the productive technology but it does not necessarily mean that the gap grows as society advances technologically.

    Also note that this also applies to high value slaves like the ones in the medieval Islamic societies, that were generals, scribes and administrators.