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  • @Manticore

    they require them to understand the concept of what a ‘server’ is to even get started.

    I’ve known 5 year olds start minecraft servers. And understand that each “world” is an “instance”. But that’s aside the point, as you’re right that even Help-Desk IT people struggle to understand the difference between computer and server.

    It’s not hard, it’s just new.

    The “new” part is what gets people. All of this is new. Even the implementation of all of this “fediverse” is new. It will come with time! People probably didn’t understand email vs snailmail, and probably had an even harder time with SMS/IM vs email when all of that came about just over 20-30 years ago. Most of these “complications” are from people that grew up knowing that the “internet” is basically 5 or 6 social media sites for very specific uses, and those 5 or 6 sites are older than most of the people using them, so that’s all they know. Even for a dude in IT, the fediverse was a new concept to understand, and even difficult to understand how it could best be implemented for the masses.

    @metic



  • @static “I don’t even know how pinging works :)”

    So for non-techy dude that sounds more business oriente in their question, I can clarify that everything that kbin is or can be is public code that anybody can copy and build from. It’s duplicated already by everyone that makes their own instance, and people can make their own edits. for #1, it’s all donation. #2, it’s all what ernest can churn out before he croaks or gets bored but kbin is just a bin of code that everyone can toss into, there is no singular domain to own. #3 every instance has their own power over their site. It’s like Wordpress. Wordpress is the source code to make things easier on the website builder. Kbin is just the website builder like WordPress. What users make of it is up to them and doesn’t require a board for each website to be made. We (the user) can request changes that get voted on by other users and can be implemented or not if someone knows how to contribute the code.

    @ernest @mmaramara






  • @Cipher I think of it more of an instructional issue specifically rather than learning issue. People explain “it’s like email” but fail to deliver the fact that it should be more like “It’s how the internet should work”. Where people think Lemmy is THE SITE and can communicate with kbin THE SITE.

    It should be mentioned that if anyone has built a website, that Lemmy is the software. You install Google Chrome on your computer, you install lemmy on your computer. You are now able to ACCESS all the other websites like you would in Chrome.

    People think “oh it’s like email, well I know Gmail is pretty good so I’ll make an account there. Whatever decisions Google makes is by extension my decision.” The average user doesn’t know what email actually is. They don’t know that you can make your own email service. They don’t know you can even just buy a domain and have your own email address.

    The only thing that bugs me about the fediverse as a whole is that these threadiverse concepts shouldn’t have communities. If it was implemented as intended, you’d have to make a community by making a new instance. The community should be federated, and then duplicate communities would get individually federated or defederated.

    I think the ambiguity of the fediverse is muddied by how each software is trying to implement it. And it’s almost hard to incentivize making your own instance.

    @trachemys