It’s not all bad though!

Ah, I misread a wiki page. Not infinite, since we aren’t traveling lightspeed, but approaching infinite as we approach lightspeed? Which is to say, not infinite but dang thats a lot of energy?

Again, I’m not great at understanding this stuff, so thanks for being patient

Yeesh I’m just not good at that kind of stuff. Time dialation is what is making this hard for me to wrap my head around, but basically the big issue with this method of travel is you need infinite energy (which might be something these ships somehow do) and its like fast forwarding into the future, so even if you go back immediately it will be like you were gone ~18 years but only experience less than 2.

It is certainly an interesting thing to think about, but sounds depressing in practice. If this is the practical way that some beings have traveled here, I feel like we are missing a piece of the puzzle for long distance space travel. Maybe they have a way to do something about time dilation. Or maybe they just don’t ever die…

I think you have assumed I’ve taken a stronger stance against this than I meant to.

The reason I’m less interested in that as evidence is simply because we don’t have a way to seperate true from untrue, and if we accept all as true there are obvious contradictions. I’m just focusing on stuff that could be disproven but hasn’t, rather than the stuff that can’t be disproven yet. Keyword, yet.

I’m of the opinion that it is likely many things people would describe as supernatural exist in some form as something science has not yet understood. IMO “the supernatural” doesn’t “exist” simply because its a word we use for the natural that we don’t understand.

But that doesn’t mean all of everything is true. Mental illness is definitely also a thing, and probably more common than the unexplained.

I try to look at it all with my own proprietary blend of kindness, cynicism, optimism, and skepticism.

I don’t want to be rude but this isn’t correct as far as my understanding. I’m no expert, so I’m not confident in my ability to describe exactly how… But the phrase “you may travel ~9 light years to Sirius in a matter of months from your perspective, but 10 years pass for everyone else.” I don’t think that is correct exactly.

Again not trying to be rude and I am very happy to be corrected but I want to understand it.

Not what I would call debunked. They pointed out the nothingburger of the lot as a nothingburger, and then for the hard to explain ones they just had possible guesses, and only commented on the videos themselves and accounted for none of the reported contexts of the videos. They basically contributed by talking about lenses and then saying they don’t know what is in the videos.

I take peoples claims of telepathic communications with aliens with the biggest grain of salt I can find.

I can’t assume there are none that are real, but I can and will assume all day that some people just have alien themed mental quirks. And I don’t think poorly of people with less believable stories, I’m just interested in the evidence that is more difficult to explain away.

I know this sounds kinda kooky but personally my (completely no basis) guess is that UFOs (in the most convincing video evidence) are some kind of natural phenomenon that exists partially outside of our understanding of physics. If they have some sort of intelligence and they aren’t just random noise, I think they would be so different from us as to be utterly unparsable. If all that is true and they interact with us, their motivations would be similarly unknowable.

I’m depressingly not convinced faster than light travel will ever be possible, especially for humans or human-like organisms…

I’m very interested in them though. I’m very hopeful that studying them seriously might lead to some incredible insights about physics.

I just… Don’t believe it. I generally believe there is more going on than nothing but if the US had a spaceship with an alien body then we are really fucking bad at capitalizing on that technology, past the point of believability.

Oh I’m willing to have a few comments, I should have been more clear. I was just saying I didn’t want this to just keep going indefinitely. Bye!

I don’t intend to have a back and forth with you, I have reason to believe it would be unproductive and frustrating.

Maybe just consider that people have no better recourse to judge a person than their actions, and mitch has done terrible things. His motivations, and whether or not he is “evil” or just generally trying to do the right thing, are irrelevant in the face of his destructive political actions. People aren’t happy that an old man had a seizure, they are happy the old man might not be causing harm much longer.

Not explicitly, no. It’s just a red flag that if you engage with this person it will be unproductive and frustrating.

Conservatives wish death on pretty much all liberal politicians every now and then, sometimes on live television, and no one even bats an eye. A handful of leftist internet comments have “ding dong the witch is dead” vibes and you start clutching your pearls.

Mitch is a shitty traitor.

“both sides” is the fastest giveaway of a bad faith troll lately. At least the unapologetic conservatives don’t pretend to take the moral high ground

Hmm, thats hardly different from me. Guess it’s not that lol

This doesn’t make any sense. Bye!

This is silly. I just disagree with I think all of it. Spam is bad and should be against the rules. Part of what made me personally so ready to leave reddit was the toxicity, and the favorite toy of the toxic redditor is the downvote.

Beehaw only defederated from lemmy.world and a few others, btw. It isn’t isolated, and it is fine IMO.

Maybe this disagreement is all opinion, you just don’t like anything but a fully curated feed. Did you never browse by new? I think the way things are here is fun.

I’m probably only gunna wait for one more response if you wanna say something else. I really wanna be done here, so please say what you wanna say and we can both move on with our lives

Simple. If the post is old and has no upvotes, I assume everyone else thought it was bad.

But really, on a post by post basis, I make up my own mind? Do you not? Like, do you decide whether or not you like a post based on the votes it has? Because I just, like it or dont like it.

Dude… You should get paid for this, you are too skilled at being annoying to do it for free.

It was just an example of a functional link aggregator with no downvotes. There are others you could look at. None of it had fucking anything to do with federation, or your opinion of the community, or anything like that.

Can we be done? Do you have some last things you wanna say before I leave and don’t come back?