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  • That’s exactly the point?

    He isn’t threatening Russia with getting nuked, he’s threatening NATO with HAVING nukes.

    If Ukraine beats back Russia to the border, things can end. Ukraine can join NATO, Ukraine gets its security via NATO and Russia will be sore, but accept Ukraine doesn’t pose an existential threat. Peace and normalization can eventually return.

    If Ukraine can’t beat them back, and can’t get the external help it needs to do so, yeah they can build some nukes. They might have to use one to show they’re not fucking around. Suddenly Ukraine IS an actual threat to Russia. Suddenly this isn’t about prestige and empire building anymore. It might end the war but normalizing relations and the future of Europe is very unclear. It would make NATO membership impossible. This is worse for NATO than Russia taking Kyiv.

    Ukraine wins either way. Russia loses either way. But NATO loses if Ukraine gets the bomb.













  • No, I was just trying to drag out of you how you see the incident without priming the pump. How does one minimize the killing of hundreds of unarmed students? I knew people like you existed, I just never had the opportunity to witness someone actually do it, and I was curious how it’s done.

    You roll 20 additional days into it as a buffer, and count injuries as equivalent to murders, and let them happen anywhere.

    It can’t be the “Tiananmen Square Massacre” for you because then couldn’t draw in PLA members who had heart attacks and died elsewhere that day because they weren’t at the square. You need to create a context where they’re all the same thing and the geography of place really damages the ability to do that.

    You just dilute a massacre to make it not a massacre by expanding the time and places. Super interesting. It’s a distinctly different approach to propegands than you’d typically see in the west or Russia.