@RxBrad

@pinkdrunkenelephants

They arent smart, they’re reactionaries

@p5f20w18k

@AradFort @xc2215x

like Rupert murdoch came to the US first lol. He’s the cancer behind it all.

@BrikoX Meta is just exercising their absolute free speech elon loves so much. Now free speech doesn’t mean anything cause it’s trade secrets??

@snooggums i guess i was the only one that read OP that way. I was trying to say that it’s more of the same, that it isn’t novel or new, and we shouldn’t be surprised. my impression was OP was saying “look at how crazy this is” as in “no one has ever done this before!”

@Unaware7013

i think we can all agree with everything you said there.

I definitely got the impression from OP that you did not, but I am more than happy to admit I am not perfect, and I can take wrong meanings from things with the best of them.

cause i think we are all saying the same thing - this is fucking horrible, and no one should use any app of platform that harvests data from you this way. I just wanted to make it clear that this level of harvesting is not new. it’s not, like, going beyond a new threshold. this is what everyone signs up for when they get tiktok or facebook or even messenger.

we should be angry but not act shocked. you know what i mean?

@HarkMahlberg

Thanks for proving my exact point. Actually both points.

@Unaware7013

Of course not

Again the whole point of my comment is to express how UNORIGINAL it is what threads is doing

It’s terrible. I want no part of it. But we shouldn’t treat it as a brand new slew of invasions when it is most certainly the same invasions most people happily take.

But OP should make it seem like threads is going to be the first and only app that harvests that much, varied data. That’s dishonest.

@Kichae

The OP is trying to make it seem that it’s new and shocking when it clearly is the same shit almost all the other social media apps do. Try reading better or understanding context.

Fucking idiots all over the internet think that once you say one critical thing you’re immediately the enemy. Fucking grow up, kid. Why the fuck do you think I’m here?

@TiffyBelle

@Bloonface

And if other instance owners have access to the private messages of people on every instance, that is a shockingly large flaw. I’m not exactly sure how insecure private messaging would be here. Not that I have people to message. But it being centralized would be more secure if decentralization would allow a much larger number of people to have access to something that, really, should be private.

There are an overwhelming number of people I don’t think are savvy or cynical enough, call it what you will, to understand that just because they call something a private message - or just because it’s supposed to be a one to one interaction - doesn’t mean no one else can see it. I would think, if anything, an overwhelming majority of people who send a private message/DM on a social media assume that no one else at ALL has access to that information.

@Deceptichum

Yes. DMs on Twitter are Direct Messages and are supposed to be private messages send to someone else that no one else can see (except server admins, et al, as we are talking about here). If you send a DM to someone on Twitter or whatever social media (they use DMs to mean private messages on Instagram as well) it’s not on the public feed, no one can search it. Like having a text message conversation

@Arotrios

@m0bi13 @edu4rdshl

Absolutely. I completely agree. I have Facebook because I have friends and family that basically require I use that to contact them. Never downloaded messager or any other thing. Not that they don’t have everything from Facebook anyway.

But the person I was responding to wasn’t making the point that everything Zuck touches turns to shit and a money grab that torches user experience. Or that they are trying to stop any potential competitor or subsume them.

They’re saying “look at all this data it’s going to harvest!!! Isn’t that INSANE?!?” When it’s literally the same almost every social media app on your phone does/has. There are a ton of arguments against anything zuck touches. Pretending the data harvesting is going to be new or groundbreaking is dishonest. Especially when, as I said, I would bet tiktok does all that and more. And it goes to a much worse actor.

@Deceptichum

@Bloonface @TiffyBelle

What do they call “private messages” on Twitter? What do you think DMs means on social media? Drivate Messages?

@Sephtis-6@kbin.social

@m0bi13 @edu4rdshl @Arotrios

I am not condoning it happening here. I’m saying it’s really bad that they can see your DMs. And people are trying to brush it off as if it’s no big deal

It’s a HUGE fucking deal. And it’s not acceptable in the slightest. There is a reason I don’t have TikTok or Snapchat or Instagram accounts and have never downloaded the apps. And it’s not because I’m super cool with this stuff.

@TiffyBelle

@Bloonface

Maybe you didn’t read where it says even DIRECT MESSAGES aka private messages you send to people, and don’t choose to post in public, is easily and easily available.

This place is already an echo chamber. Jesus that’s bad. Everyone is on a new team and now we love this team and this team is never wrong and all criticisms are invalid. Even the really bad ones.

I don’t really care. I’m old enough to have never trusted the internet. But let’s not pretend this isn’t a huge fucking deal, and isn’t completely fucked just because Reddit bad and fediverse good

@Arotrios

@m0bi13 @edu4rdshl

Ok and how is this worse than what Facebook already does? Or TikTok? Or Instagram?

You list all these things as if this new platform is going to be the first and only thing to harvest all your personal data. Like it’s shocking and new and so much worse

How is it worse? It’s the same bullshit. If you already have Facebook, and most do unfortunately, they are already doing that. And I would bet TikTok takes this much and more and has worse actors.

@TORFdot0

That was extremely extremely helpful. Thank you. I had no idea this was talking about phone emulators. That’s amazing. I didn’t know you could do that!!!
Really really appreciate this

@TORFdot0 can you please say all that again but for people who have no idea what you’re talking about, as opposed to people who already know and thus don’t need the advice.

@Odusei

Hey. Yeah. Sorry. When I hit reply on kbin it @‘s everyone above me in that comment all the way to the OP. I guess I didn’t realize it. When I responded to this just now I had to delete 2 or 3 other people.

@tikitaki

@Valhaitham

Let’s not compare an invention (ie money/borders) to something completely made up that has no basis in reality.

Just because money isn’t in nature and we invented it doesn’t mean it’s a societal delusion that we simply accept. You could say the same for cars and bikes and planes and video games. Literally everything fabricated is “a fake delusion”.

Democracy is closer to what you’re saying but still not right.

You have to compare a belief to a belief. You can compare religions and other philosophies using your logic but shouldn’t bring in real things cause it falls apart.

@StoicSpork

@chickenwing

Someone who says virtue signaling unironically is the dumbest fuck in the room, no matter what room they’re in.