Nooooot exactly.

See the way federation works is that each community on each instance has a list of other instances that has at least one subscriber on it. Every time someone does something on that community, such as commenting/voting/posting, it sends that information out to every instance on its list.

So say there’s three instances (A, B, and C).

A has 1000 users.

B has 500

C has 10,000

Let’s say they’re all subscribed to some particular community on instance B.

A user on Instance A comments on a post. Instance A sends this comment to Instance B. Instance B tells Instance C about it so everybody is synced up (and presumably, tells A just to confirm they’ve received it).

So one action means instance B has to send out 1 or 2 messages to other servers, and in just those two messages was able to serve 11k users (plus it’s own 500)

Now let’s say all 11,500 users ran their own instance, and this community was on one of them. Again, it’s a super popular community and everyone else is subscribed. Call it instance X.

Now, someone comments on a post on this community. Instance X now has to send a message to 11,499 instances. Every single action on this hypothetical network will cause several thousand messages to fly between them. Not efficient to say the least.

Well I’m not sure how you expect that to work… especially moderation/rules wise.

Yeah it would be cool if we didn’t have to see the instance name but I don’t think it’s too big a deal. Just subscribe to the better one and never worry about it.

Keep in mind that the upcoming Lemmy update will probably fix this I think. (Replacing websockets)

It’s all managed through ICANN (The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers)

https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/register-domain-name-2017-06-20-en

Are more simple explanation to your question: https://www.thesitewizard.com/domain/register-with-icann-sans-middlemen.shtml

Oh I don’t think it’s quite ready for everyday use, it works okay for a bit of scrolling. But the dev is updating it pretty often and wants to get everything working (at least the basics) by the end of the month

You’d be surprised how fast Mlem is coming along.

But for now just open the home page of your instance in Safari, hit “share” then “add to Home Screen” works okay

By moderating it, as I said some is necessary obviously.

I just don’t like the “police” comparison. There are ways to motivate people to keep order without sending armed state goons to kill or imprison you.

I know your comment isn’t really about the metaphorical “village”, but police as we know them today are a far more modern conception than we think. Plenty of societies/villages/whatever did fine without such a force.

I don’t think we need the police comparison…

Some moderation is necessary, but if things get out of hand your instance will just be defederated. So it is more self regulating than you suggest.

Especially since “villages” can completely block an entire other “village”.

Keeps communities that don’t want to be isolated more reasonable without having hardline rules

Eh. You can find a cozy little community on another instance and have it feel like home. Especially if you have a “display name” which will make it hard for anyone to even see you’re from another instance unless they actually check

/c/mlemapp@lemmy.ml

Messages/Notifications aren’t implemented yet, FYI. But the dev is working hard to get at least all the basics up by July 1

Eh. Eventually one will become the “de facto” place to go, same way /r/technology won out over /r/tech.

Give it some time for people to figure it out. This “fragmentation” problem, IMO, is overblown.

Have you heard of Mlem? It’s in beta, and not really quite ready for everyday usage yet, but it’s inspired by Apollo and the dev is working hard.

https://github.com/buresdv/Mlem

Join the beta: https://testflight.apple.com/join/xQfmkJhc

Just click it to cancel, then try again. It can take a few tries. I think it’s an effect of overloaded servers.

To be fair, in some countries they are.

And especially in younger age groups, in certain countries, the vast majority are on iPhone.

I think in the US iPhone is up to 70% of people 18-30… and for teens something crazy like 90%.

I’m not defending Apple’s practices here but you must understand for some, the vast majority of people they know and actually talk to are iPhone users.

Still down for me, probably just got lucky on a refresh

Reddit hides partial blackout by going full blackout lmao

The way activitypub works is that each community has a list of every server that has at least one subscriber to that community.

Every time someone does something in that community, the community sends all those servers a message that tells them what just happened.

So instead of a few hundred servers it might have to inform of your one upvote of a post, it would have to basically inform every user (every user’s server)

It would be bad, it’s not designed to do that.

Note that this is just basically a script to deploy lemmy on a remote server. And it uses docker. It just does it for you. (Mostly)