If you ever wanted to read about fake druids vs. environmental activists, now’s your chance.

  • @ringwraithfish
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    18 days ago

    How does that help?

    We’re talking about it

    • Blackbeard
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      88 days ago

      But we’re not talking about it. We’re not talking about political action, or technological solutions, or mitigation programs, or investments in adaptation, or natural resource management, or harm reduction, or food distribution, or drought management.

      No, we’re talking about a bunch of first world children who decided to paint a bunch of ten-thousand year old rocks for attention.

      • @ringwraithfish
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        18 days ago

        “The orange cornflour we used to create an eye-catching spectacle will soon wash away with the rain…"

        • @kent_eh@lemmy.ca
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          48 days ago

          will soon wash away with the rain…"

          Just like any attention they may have grabbed due to their stunt.

          • @ringwraithfish
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            -18 days ago

            For the record, I’m not saying I agree with their methods, but I don’t think it’s fair to them either that everyone is acting like they did irreparable harm to the monument.

            • Blackbeard
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              38 days ago

              No one is saying they did or acting like they did. What we’re actually saying is that the methods were fucking ridiculous and counterproductive.

      • @Killing_Spark@feddit.de
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        -58 days ago

        But it also stops us from talking about anything else. Part of this is not allowing other things to take over. Yes it would be even better if the discussion focussed on a productive way forward. It would be worse if we were discussing something else.

        • Blackbeard
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          18 days ago

          And therein lies the problem with today’s generations. Instead of doing the hard work of getting involved in civic groups and local politics in order to mobilize voters and enact real, substantive change, we’re taking the short cut by spraying shit on the walls so no one can talk about anything else.

          You made my point very succinctly, so thanks for that.

            • Blackbeard
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              28 days ago

              I’d say spraying colored powder on archeological sites and art galleries instead of getting involved in civic action to enact societal and economic change counts as lazy, yes.

              • @Killing_Spark@feddit.de
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                8 days ago

                I mean how do you know that this “instead of” is factual and isn’t in reality a “additionally to”?

                • Blackbeard
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                  08 days ago

                  Their website. It’s a string of performative, attention-seeking destruction, peppered with the rare “letter to party leaders” or “disrupted” public event.

                  It’s clear as day.

                  • @Killing_Spark@feddit.de
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                    18 days ago

                    It’s possible to be a part of multiple organisations. Just because someone is part of JSO that doesn’t mean they can’t also be active in other groups. Highly motivated people like these tend to do that. It also makes sense to not lump these efforts under one name so that the public messaging doesn’t get muddied.

    • BombOmOm
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      88 days ago

      Note how we are talking about how large of douchebags the activists are and just how much they damaged a cultural heritage site.

      Fuck these people.

      • @ringwraithfish
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        08 days ago

        “The orange cornflour we used to create an eye-catching spectacle will soon wash away with the rain…"

        • @Wrench@lemmy.world
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          8 days ago

          Yeah. That’s their intent. But they really don’t know for sure that their stunt won’t have some completely unexpected effect. Some slow reaction with that specific kind of stone that only matters if the powder gets deep into some cracks for 200 years or whatever. Or attracts stone eating bacteria of some sort.

          The point is that they dont know what they dont know. Every time they pull one of these stunts, they are introducing the risk of irrevocable damage to historically significant objects that should be left to future generations.

          Stop fucking around with human history. Stone Henge is a world wonder.

    • Flying SquidOPM
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      18 days ago

      Which does exactly what? Is it at all likely that anyone actually able to do anything about this was unaware of the climate change disaster we’re facing and this will change their mind?