• SaltSong
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    17 days ago

    “The goal of slavery was slavery” is circular logic.

    I’m not sure how better to make my point, but I can’t really disagree with you. Let me try again.

    “Terrorism” is using ineffective tactics to cause a disproportionate response in your enemy, with the goal that they do something beneficial to you.

    Slavery is not that. Slavery is not trying to achieve a separate goal. It’s a system of oppression. Like all such systems, the only thing it is trying to accomplish is self-sustainability.

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      17 days ago

      “Terrorism” is using ineffective tactics to cause a disproportionate response in your enemy, with the goal that they do something beneficial to you.

      Ah, I think this is where we actually disagree. “Terrorism”, to my thinking, is using terror as a means to achieve political goals. Thus, a fascist regime slaughtering people in the streets to achieve acquiescence to the regime is just as much terrorism as a fringe party in a democracy setting off a bomb in the legislature. The fundamental element of both is the achievement of broader political goals by terror.

      Thus, slavery, seeking to achieve the acquisition of cheap labor for the elite by the use of a system of brutality and arbitrary hierarchy with the conscious aim of inciting terror in the labor force to maintain their ‘cooperation’, is certainly predicated on the use of terrorism.

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        17 days ago

        I suppose I can see those definitions.

        I would still not call slavery terrorism, if only because terrorism is not slavery. Terrorism is a tool used by people who promote slavery.

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          17 days ago

          I suppose I would say, more clearly than the meme, that American slavery was an enterprise which inherently involved systemic terrorism.

          But I didn’t make the meme myself, and even I did, I would probably find that too wordy to clarify anyway, and just have said something close to the meme as-is. :p