• yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 months ago

    I’m against the death penalty, and I know the best argument against it, something nobody in this thread has even approximately articulated.

    Currently, as far as I know, there is only one strong argument against the death penalty, and it has to do with moral proscriptions against treating the death of a person as a spectacle, which I notice nobody mentioned.

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      2 months ago

      I don’t want someone to kill me; therefore I believe it is also not okay for me to kill someone else. It’s just the golden rule. I am not a student of ethics or philosophy but it seems pretty straightforward to me.

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        In the event that I were guilty of causing great harm to innocent people, then I should be killed. Not in revenge, but as a matter of course, given that my life would no longer be worth living.

        This is the golden rule in action, which is about how you would want to be treated in similar circumstances.

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      Currently, as far as I know, there is only one strong argument against the death penalty, and it has to do with moral proscriptions against treating the death of a person as a spectacle, which I notice nobody mentioned.

      Nah I think not killing innocent people is a pretty strong argument, death being a spectacle doesn’t really matter to me- someone killing someone is much worse than the part where they post it on LiveLeak

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        2 months ago

        If you’re so against killing innocents, I assume you’re vegan. Or… is your morality as twisted and inconsistent as I suspect?

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            2 months ago

            So your morality is arbitrary, and at least we can both agree that the chicken has more reason to live than you do.

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              2 months ago

              So your morality is arbitrary

              Yours isn’t? Where does it come from?

              both agree that the chicken has more reason to live than you do.

              You’re clearly not trolling

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                2 months ago

                Your morality isn’t arbitrary?

                This is literally nihilism.

                I’m genuinely happy to discuss metaethics, but I’m getting a sense that you don’t actually care about ethics very much, given your nihilism.

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                  This is literally nihilism.

                  No, it’s not.

                  Nihilism requires intentionally rejecting morality. Accepting that any belief is inherently arbitrary, but still caring about that, is not nihilism