Let’s not bury the lede here: the joke in question was making a birthday wish while blowing out candles saying “don’t miss next time”. Joke or not, that is publicly encouraging the assassination of a former president.
Like, there’s a big difference between “I heard he shit his pants when the bullets started flying” and “I hope it happens again and succeeds this time”.
Fuck Trump. Fuck everything about him. But you gotta know that shit isn’t acceptable when standing next to the guy who played Bowser for Nintendo
EDIT: Whole lot of people in here can’t fucking read lmao. I don’t give a shit about Trump, conservatives, or anyone on that side of this issue. I just know that it’s a dumb move to make that joke standing on stage with a guy who stars in PG movies for a living. Y’all need to get a grip
Spare us the sanctimonious lecturing. I don’t give a single shit about the pearl clutching coming from conservatives after they spent the last two years thinking it was utterly hilarious that a lunatic with a hammer savagely attacked Paul Pelosi… Including Donald “look at my YUGE bandage” Trump. They can dish it out but they can’t take it, fuck this apologia nonsense. A comedian made a tasteless joke about Trump at a concert in Australia. Boo hoo.
As far as I’m concerned the only one whose reputation has taken a hit here is JB. Immediately throwing Kyle Gass under the bus, cancelling their tour, and announcing “all creative plans are on hold” over that seems like a massive overreaction. I still think he’s an incredibly talented dude and he seems like an otherwise good person but it has made me think quite a bit less of him.
Edit: And now this jackass is doubling down and insisting anyone that disagrees with their stupid point simply didn’t understand it. Blocked.
lmao calling it spineless is the epitome of missing the forest for the trees. JB is taking heat he never had to while Kyle sits off to the side looking like a victim now. JB gets to keep his career, and they’ll be back on tour in two months when everyone has forgotten this happened. You all want him to make a stink for YOUR own satisfaction when, in reality, he’s taking the L like a champ because it’s what’s best for everyone involved after a mistake was made.
Bunch of children who can’t see past the tips of your own noses, you lot.
I didn’t say it wasn’t justifiable? The content of the statement is justifiable. That doesn’t mean it was a smart thing to say in the time and place he said it.
I hear what you’re saying, but I’m not sure I buy the argument. Jack Black is not just School of Rock, he’s half of Tenacious D. The band that made a movie about cock pushups and wrote “Fuck Her Gently.”
Being the goofy dad in Full House didn’t stop Bob Saget from being a very blue stand up comedian.
There’s a huge difference between bucking puritanical social norms around sex and vulgarity, and making light of a situation where an innocent bystander was killed, and a former president and current candidate was shot at. Those things are drastically different and it’s honestly crazy to me that people are trying to use JB’s prior sophomoric humor as a reason why he should have been okay with what might charitably be called gallows humor
:shrug: Ever consider the dude actually thinks KG crossed a line? Not only that but he’s put himself front and center instead of KG, who doesn’t have the type of resources JB has to roll with the punches when lunatics come after him. Spineless would have been letting KG deal with the fallout from the comment while he melted into the background saying “no comment”.
Y’all are legitimately being insanely selfish. You want your entertainment and fuck the consequences for the people involved. It’s disgusting. Not one of you is considering what the actual people involved want or what’s best for them. You want a sock puppet. Get over yourselves.
Former president, and current Republican frontrunner. If condoning political violence is bad, then Trump is the next Charles Manson in instilling violence in his cult.
You’re generalizing too hard. There is a legally convicted felon inciting race riots and attempts to overthrow the government. He had his chance as a leader, caused mass cultural and economic damage to America, and he is looking to do it again.
Violence is historically what is needed to make change to a government that is out of touch with the culture and the people it’s meant to represent.
You’re all misreading what I said. I never said it was bad. I said it was stupid.
I will say myself that I wish Trump were shot in the head (barring the unfortunate side effects that would bring about but that’s a separate conversation).
But I’m not standing on a stage next to Jack Black 🤷
As I said elsewhere there is a dramatic difference between bucking puritanical norms around sex and vulgarity, and making light of an attempt to assassinate a former president in which an innocent bystander was killed
It was a tossed off joke made in the spur of the moment. You are allowed to not like it, but don’t make up an elaborate censurial framework to justify that dislike. That’s a fool’s game bred by moral puritanism and it’s leading you to make arguments that are completely horseshit
The dude made an edgy joke about a child rapist fascist who has a high likelihood of controlling the worlds most powerful nation a second time where his backers have a open plan to immediately invoke martial law and completely replace the government on all levels with their own lackies should they win. Lets not pretend Gass has any real ability to put out an assassination attempt on a potential presidential candidate, so we’re not hiding anything when we say its just an edgy joke where the person who’s the butt of it is a certifiably nasty person. You dont actually have to support political violence to get that
I can wish the bystander didn’t die, but that would mean the shooter would’ve had to not miss, which also would’ve resulted in the death of a pedophilic, racist, rapist cancer on this country, so… Win win?
It’s still a stupid thing today on a stage next to Jack Black.
People can down vote me all they want, it doesn’t change the fact that regardless of how justifiable the sentiment is - and it’s a sentiment I completely agree with - it was just plain stupid to say in that situation
There may be more to this that we arent aware of like they agreed to not do controversial material ages ago and Kyle pitched the joke and Jack said “Dude fucking no, we dont want to touch this.”
It might be more about creative differences than the actual joke is what I’m saying.
Oh, I don’t think he’s MAGA, I think he’s just entirely too worried about his acting career and threw Kyle under the bus without a second thought. Kyle just said what occurred to him in the moment and rather than backing Kyle, Jack just turned weasel.
I feel like this is referencing something I’m out of the loop on
https://variety.com/2024/music/news/jack-black-cancels-tenacious-d-tour-trump-assassination-kyle-gass-1236073486/
Jack Black canceled his tour after Kyle Gass made a joke about the Trump assassination attempt.
It was not the greatest joke in the world. No, it was just a tribute.
Let’s not bury the lede here: the joke in question was making a birthday wish while blowing out candles saying “don’t miss next time”. Joke or not, that is publicly encouraging the assassination of a former president.
Like, there’s a big difference between “I heard he shit his pants when the bullets started flying” and “I hope it happens again and succeeds this time”.
Fuck Trump. Fuck everything about him. But you gotta know that shit isn’t acceptable when standing next to the guy who played Bowser for Nintendo
EDIT: Whole lot of people in here can’t fucking read lmao. I don’t give a shit about Trump, conservatives, or anyone on that side of this issue. I just know that it’s a dumb move to make that joke standing on stage with a guy who stars in PG movies for a living. Y’all need to get a grip
Spare us the sanctimonious lecturing. I don’t give a single shit about the pearl clutching coming from conservatives after they spent the last two years thinking it was utterly hilarious that a lunatic with a hammer savagely attacked Paul Pelosi… Including Donald “look at my YUGE bandage” Trump. They can dish it out but they can’t take it, fuck this apologia nonsense. A comedian made a tasteless joke about Trump at a concert in Australia. Boo hoo.
As far as I’m concerned the only one whose reputation has taken a hit here is JB. Immediately throwing Kyle Gass under the bus, cancelling their tour, and announcing “all creative plans are on hold” over that seems like a massive overreaction. I still think he’s an incredibly talented dude and he seems like an otherwise good person but it has made me think quite a bit less of him.
Edit: And now this jackass is doubling down and insisting anyone that disagrees with their stupid point simply didn’t understand it. Blocked.
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I thought everyone (incl GP) understood? It’s right there in the title of the post.
lmao calling it spineless is the epitome of missing the forest for the trees. JB is taking heat he never had to while Kyle sits off to the side looking like a victim now. JB gets to keep his career, and they’ll be back on tour in two months when everyone has forgotten this happened. You all want him to make a stink for YOUR own satisfaction when, in reality, he’s taking the L like a champ because it’s what’s best for everyone involved after a mistake was made.
Bunch of children who can’t see past the tips of your own noses, you lot.
Are you just copy pasting a lot of these? FWIW I understand what point you are trying to argue.
No but I am unfortunately having to repeat myself a lot
How the fuck do you square saying you agree with his position while also saying it isnt justifiable?
I didn’t say it wasn’t justifiable? The content of the statement is justifiable. That doesn’t mean it was a smart thing to say in the time and place he said it.
They’re comedians on stage. That joke was tame as hell. Republicans have openly said worse about trans people, and they’re not joking.
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And when Republicans are trying to star in Nintendo movies maybe that will actually be a relevant comparison
I hear what you’re saying, but I’m not sure I buy the argument. Jack Black is not just School of Rock, he’s half of Tenacious D. The band that made a movie about cock pushups and wrote “Fuck Her Gently.”
Being the goofy dad in Full House didn’t stop Bob Saget from being a very blue stand up comedian.
There’s a huge difference between bucking puritanical social norms around sex and vulgarity, and making light of a situation where an innocent bystander was killed, and a former president and current candidate was shot at. Those things are drastically different and it’s honestly crazy to me that people are trying to use JB’s prior sophomoric humor as a reason why he should have been okay with what might charitably be called gallows humor
Had he not missed the bystander would be alive.
So.
Are you a corporate shill? Who gives a flying fuck about nintendo?
Jack Black gives a fuck about Nintendo, that’s my point
That’s exactly the “spineless PR” you’re arguing against!
:shrug: Ever consider the dude actually thinks KG crossed a line? Not only that but he’s put himself front and center instead of KG, who doesn’t have the type of resources JB has to roll with the punches when lunatics come after him. Spineless would have been letting KG deal with the fallout from the comment while he melted into the background saying “no comment”.
Y’all are legitimately being insanely selfish. You want your entertainment and fuck the consequences for the people involved. It’s disgusting. Not one of you is considering what the actual people involved want or what’s best for them. You want a sock puppet. Get over yourselves.
And that makes him a piece of shit. Welcome to the point of everyone else.
Former president, and current Republican frontrunner. If condoning political violence is bad, then Trump is the next Charles Manson in instilling violence in his cult.
So as long as someone else does something first, any act is justifiable in your mind?
It’s so weird that one assassination attempt turns everyone into grade schoolers.
“But teacher, they started it!”
You’re generalizing too hard. There is a legally convicted felon inciting race riots and attempts to overthrow the government. He had his chance as a leader, caused mass cultural and economic damage to America, and he is looking to do it again.
Violence is historically what is needed to make change to a government that is out of touch with the culture and the people it’s meant to represent.
You’re all misreading what I said. I never said it was bad. I said it was stupid.
I will say myself that I wish Trump were shot in the head (barring the unfortunate side effects that would bring about but that’s a separate conversation).
But I’m not standing on a stage next to Jack Black 🤷
The set list included ‘fuck her gently’, ‘Double Team’ and ‘low hanging fruit’, get outta here with that PG shit.
As I said elsewhere there is a dramatic difference between bucking puritanical norms around sex and vulgarity, and making light of an attempt to assassinate a former president in which an innocent bystander was killed
It was a tossed off joke made in the spur of the moment. You are allowed to not like it, but don’t make up an elaborate censurial framework to justify that dislike. That’s a fool’s game bred by moral puritanism and it’s leading you to make arguments that are completely horseshit
Any problem with a hitler assassination joke?
The dude made an edgy joke about a child rapist fascist who has a high likelihood of controlling the worlds most powerful nation a second time where his backers have a open plan to immediately invoke martial law and completely replace the government on all levels with their own lackies should they win. Lets not pretend Gass has any real ability to put out an assassination attempt on a potential presidential candidate, so we’re not hiding anything when we say its just an edgy joke where the person who’s the butt of it is a certifiably nasty person. You dont actually have to support political violence to get that
That has absolutely nothing to do with JB not wanting to make light of an assassination attempt where an innocent person died.
Hey maybe if the shooter hadn’t missed, that innocent father & former firefighter wouldn’t have died either.
I can wish the bystander didn’t die, but that would mean the shooter would’ve had to not miss, which also would’ve resulted in the death of a pedophilic, racist, rapist cancer on this country, so… Win win?
It’s lede just for whatever it’s worth.
Oops! That’s what I get for trying to swipe-type uncommon words xD
I also wish the assassin hadn’t missed. What’cha gonna do about it, snowflake?
Literally nothing? Because I do too? Can you read?
I sincerely hope it happens again and succeeds this time. Trump is a threat to democracy and I hope somebody does something about it.
*Disclaimer: I am not instructing anyone to do anything, I am stating how I would feel if that thing were to happen.
Yep, I’m with JB on this one.
That joke is harmless…although the blowing out candles and making a wish is slightly troubling
It’s completely harmless.
It’s still a stupid thing today on a stage next to Jack Black.
People can down vote me all they want, it doesn’t change the fact that regardless of how justifiable the sentiment is - and it’s a sentiment I completely agree with - it was just plain stupid to say in that situation
KG made a joke about Trump getting assassinated and Black totally stopped the tour and disowned him.
There may be more to this that we arent aware of like they agreed to not do controversial material ages ago and Kyle pitched the joke and Jack said “Dude fucking no, we dont want to touch this.”
It might be more about creative differences than the actual joke is what I’m saying.
Never thought I’d see someone think they had to white knight Jack Black, but here we are
NGL I’m kind of hoping that Jack isnt a closet MAGA asshole. Ill take a benign capitalist motive over that.
Oh, I don’t think he’s MAGA, I think he’s just entirely too worried about his acting career and threw Kyle under the bus without a second thought. Kyle just said what occurred to him in the moment and rather than backing Kyle, Jack just turned weasel.
People can lie but he seems to support Biden.
He supports Biden, but not his best friend.
Goddamn it, JB. Just goddamn.
Man, imagine thinking your argument is so flimsy that you have to justify your argument with lazy “white knight” accusations.
“How dare you join the discussion and not immediately be as outraged as I am! What are you, some kind of simp?!”