• pjwestin@lemmy.world
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    17 days ago

    I mean, leaving .world is a pretty fair response. That community is full of insufferable idiots, but an admin overrode their moderating decisions, and then the admin team made up rules to retroactively justify their decision. That’s pretty egregious.

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      17 days ago

      If thats true then everyone should probably start leaving .world. If they cant even behave themselves with something as simple as veganism, then you cant trust them to not powertrip with actually controversial political issues.

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        Maybe, but this seems like a problem that’s bigger than a single instance. A few months back someone came with some pretty good receipts showing .ml admins going after people for having some very fair and moderate criticisms of China. Seems like most instances either have power tripping mods or are too small to have much activity.

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        you cant trust them to not powertrip with actually controversial political issues.

        I mean they “preemptively defederated hexbear as a last resort” for fear they might discuss politics, so that ship has sailed.

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      17 days ago
      1. Adding animal abuse to their TOS was a good move. I’m surprised it wasn’t already there.
      2. Encouraging people to feed a cat a vegan diet is a call to abuse a cat through deliberate malnourishment.
      3. Mods on c/vegan were directly calling for animal abuse, and censoring anyone countering them.

      I stand with the admins on this. Zero sympathy for animal abusers.

      leaving .world is a pretty fair response

      Okay, .world account…

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        1. Agreed, except when it’s being done to retroactively justify your actions.
        2. I think it’s a very bad idea to feed a cat a Vegan diet, but there are vegan products being sold on the market, and if you want to feed your cat one of these products, you should discuss them with a vet or other qualified professional. Regular dry food contains way more carbohydrates than cats are meant to have in their diet, which can lead to obesity and diabetes in cats. Are people who feed their cats dry food animal abusers? Should the Lemmy admins start policing the use of dry food?
        3. The mods of c/vegan were trying to assert their ability to moderate their own sub as they saw fit in the face of a massive overreach from the admin. I think they’re the most insufferable community I’ve seen on this instance, but they should have the right to moderate their own community.

        And yes, I’m on .world, but very little of my identity is tired up in my lemmy instance, and I’m certainly not going to bat for the .world admins when they do something crazy.

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          So you are cool if we just feed prisoners vitamin fortified gruel since they can technically survive on it?

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            I mean a lot of people are feeding there cats cheap dry kibble that has almost no resemblance to the meat it was rendered from. If your argument is that it’s abuse if you aren’t feeding your cat what it wants then there’s a lot of cat abusers out there.

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              I will happily argue that this is a form of animal abuse. People buying cheap Wal Mart kibble are shitty.

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            I mean we do already with nutraloaf. But lets stay on the topic at hand.

            So vegan diets are just “salads, bugs, grass and gruel” whenever it suits your argument for the moment.

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              I absolutely abhor the idea of nutraloaf. It’s the same modernist bullshit which got us eugenics.

              If you actually give your cat a real option and they choose the vegan food, that is fine with me.

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                There are many plant-based recipes that are tasty out there, cats would enjoy the vegan food if its made right.

                Its their nature in the wild to choose meat because its what sustained them for so long in the past.