Winn always made my skin crawl!

  • InverseParallax@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    No, that was bad too.

    I mean, s1 and s2 was very cringy too, but they had episodes that were very well written by people other than Roddenberry, and we all tend to blank out trauma in our past.

    Voyager? This wasn’t the first trek show in decades, we weren’t dying for want of decent scifi, we had tng, ds9, b5, farscape was coming online, stargate too, and before Voy finished we had The Phantom Menace and the Matrix.

    The mid-late 90s were a golden age for media, our standards had increased dramatically particularly for writing.

    For TNG I’d say 50% of episodes are either forgettable or near-unwatchable, with a bias towards the early seasons, S3 and S4 are just gold though.

    Voyager, I have a few episodes I like (, but many more I can’t watch, the writing is just so uneven.

    Btw, I have a warm spot in my heart for Enterprise, I think it got a majorly unfair rap, but the first 2 seasons are similar in their unevenness, though Season 4 is again, just gold.

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      5 hours ago

      we had The Phantom Menace

      Hey, I thought we were talking about decent examples of sci fi

      TNG … 50%

      I’d put it more like 25%. That being said, I def consult episode guides when I’m rewatching and skip accordingly.

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        21 minutes ago

        Hey, I thought we were talking about decent examples of sci fi

        Yeah, they kind of screwed the pooch when they brought that up. Sort of negates the rest of their argument.