Venezuela furious at Brazil's Brics snub
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Venezuela criticises Brazil's decision to veto its admission to the Brics group of emerging economies.
  • jolliver_bromwell [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    16·
    1 day ago

    BRICS serves an anti imperialist function vs the west but it’s not an explicitly left formation. i would love it to be more than it is and it’s still a good thing but it’s important to keep expectations in line w reality

  • kristina [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    15·
    1 day ago

    What’s up with Lula?

    Lula was scheduled to travel to Russia for the summit, but cancelled the trip after injuring his head in an accident at home on Saturday.

    bro got concussed

  • TonoManza@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
    18·
    1 day ago

    What’s up with Lula? Well the article outright says it!

    “Lula was scheduled to travel to Russia for the summit, but cancelled the trip after injuring his head in an accident at home on Saturday.”

    But really, it seems like a combination of standard squabbling, and also that perhaps Brazil prefers the potential benefits of being the only country in South America that is part of brics.

      • TonoManza@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
        9·
        1 day ago

        Idk what Brazil sees as the benefits, but to my analysis, they see whatever benefits of being the lone brics member in South America as worth more than expanding it with Venezuela, else they would have let them in.

        Maybe it’s not economic but political and the political power that let them have power to single handedly VETO and be the ones to stop Venezuela from joining could be potentially lost or atleast lessened? (Not saying they’d lose veto power, more of a “soft” loss of power)

        I just can’t believe it starts and ends with a silly ideological disagreement over validity of Maduros election records. Considering there are already multiple different economies and ideologies in the group, I don’t see why the relatively minor disagreements on those fronts would be the deciding factor, so this leads me to believe it’s not that. (if China and India can agree, Venezuela and Brazils disagreement has no excuse to get in the way).

        Also, would you care to explain how that’s not how economies work? It’s my understanding that as long as Brazil is the only link to South America, then any interaction that has to do with South America would reasonably pass through Brazil first, right? They would be the “hub to South America” so to speak?

        • freagle@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
          9·
          1 day ago

          Intermediation is good for power but not good for economics. Mutual thriving is objectively better for economics along every measure. Intermediation only works when you’re doing either a colonialism or a neocolonialism, both of which the global south is soundly dismantling. For Brazil to decide to intermediate an entire continent economically is to be engaged in theory from the early 1900s.

          I think the geopolitical considerations are more useful to us in analyzing the situation. The USA is starting to threaten Brazil over joining BRICS. The USA is also rabidly anti-Venezuela. I think the veto fits far more neatly into this dynamic where Brazil does not yet wish to create a strong schism with the USA and so is maintaining some level of rapport to avoid some Monroe Doctrine shenanigans from sending high velocity projectiles towards Lula’s brain.

    • Redcuban1959 [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
      4·
      1 day ago

      Another user here talked about this, there were some other reasons. Most of them are selfish, I think the main one was that the second round of the municipal elections, Lula probably did not go to the meeting and vetoed Venezuela and Nicaragua (Actually I could not find articles about Nicaragua though, and someone said it was not even the final list, it was just a pre-list) so his own party and coalition did not have more problems because of Lula’s meeting with Putin and Maduro (They did ok in this election, I think they just had a big defeat, but to be honest it was a difficult election for Lula’s candidate to win. A pleasant surprise was the victory of the Workers Party in Fortaleza and in the South, before a very pro-Bolsonaro region, but which has a large presence of the left due to rural workers), the Workers Party having an unexpected runoff against the Liberal Party (Bolsonaro’s party) in the Center-West, a region that the Workers Party was never strong.