• Lanthanae@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    1 year ago

    In most instances (like beehaw) it’s really just because lack of good moderation tools at the moment is making it difficult for them to handle a large influx of users and it’s intended to be temporary.

    Personally, I think defederating is overkill, but I’m not an admin and I empathize with the difficulty I’m sure they’re facing with such a rapid scale up. The best way for most people to help this situation is to just do a good job of properly upvoting & (if enabled) downvoting content to help naturally sort content, and help report when you see people acting against the rules of a community to help it’s mods.

    People who are technically savvy could especially help by participating in the development of FOSS Lemmy mod tools.

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      Another approach would’ve been to just create another community for instance specific discussion and change the rules of c/lemmy.world

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      Use dictates rules. This is why the blackout happened. Arbitrarily enforcing obscure initial intent that has never been enforced, and does not reflect use is counterproductive nonsense and anti community. Make a new sub that suits the old purpose.

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        Or just make a new sub that fits the new purpose? Goes both ways. The community is for server announcements and the like that people should probably see.

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          No. Use dictates the direction of the community, not mods. Mods should be invisible and enforce the direction the community decides. A visible mod is a bad mod in every instance.

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            ¯_(ツ)_/¯ I’m just sayin man it’s clearly stated in the community rules and has been for a while as far as I can tell. I get what you’re saying but if I create a soccer sub and people start posting football livestreams I’d ask them to make their own space too.

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                  He did just fine. I was here watching since 1.21k total users. He is not a visible mod but does what is needed when it is needed

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    I wonder if it’s because !lemmyworld@lemmy.world sidebar and rules say:

    This Community is intended for posts about the Lemmy.world server.

    That means announcements from the team, issues you see etc.

    There’s so much spam in this community already. People are using it as a catch-all community

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      That would be better for general posts than posting on the community about the lemmy.world instance, but aren’t new users (that mostly come from Reddit) not already used to subreddits? It should not be too hard to figure out how to post in the right community. If not, then maybe we need to help them with finding communities? Here on lemmy.world they should just be able to use the search option.

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    I’m so glad I didn’t make an account in one of the big instances.

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      Yeah I don’t get it either, we’ve got an all option (at least in Jerboa, I haven’t used the web version much)

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      I assume it’s in reference to this: https://lemmy.one/post/137234

      where lemmy.world is enforcing on-topic posts in their lemmy.world community, which was originally intended to be just about the instance itself rather than a catchall r/all style thing

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        The post about Spez’s internal memo to reddit employees was locked. WHY? Dear lemmy.world mods, this is the shit I wanted to get away from Reddit. Don’t repeat the mistakes of the past.

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          There are a couple Reddit centric communities out there, and since this community is supposed to be more about the lemmy.world instance in particular Reddit doesn’t really fit. I think that’s what they’re trying to do.

          There’s https://lemmy.ml/c/reddit and https://lemmy.ml/c/snoocalypse and https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration and a good handful of others where those kinds of posts would probably be more appropriate.

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            As I just replied to another comment, I saw the last message that it didn’t apply, but when it has 300+ replies already, locking it just seems a little heavy handed.

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            I don’t know. I didn’t post it, I didn’t lock it, I was just looking through the mod logs and you have a large thread just locked, which is the topic of this thread. I see the mod left a message about it being in the wrong place, but as I said to someone else who replied to me, it just seems a little heavy handed, especially this early in the game to be locking posts with that many replies. That’s my opinion on this.

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              I mean, they posted an announcement and stickied it to explain why. They also have rules posted in the sidebar. I guess they could also add a copy and pasted comment to each closed thread but is it really necessary?

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          Not accusing you of this, but there might be confusion between the instance lemmy.world and the self-titled lemmy.world community. This is about moderation in the lemmy.world community, which is meant to discuss the instance; not moderation of the instance as a whole.