• TwoGems@lemmy.world
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      Garland would have to care and treats him and other Republicans with kid gloves. The kid whom leaked documents was insta-prison. Yet Trump sold out the entire country and the DOJ is Zz z.

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        Yeah Snowden is still hiding out in countries that don’t extradite to us. Manning is free, but it’s pretty clear that her time in prison had serious lasting damage to her mind. Both of them had good reasons to leak and did their best to minimize unnecessary damage. Meanwhile this chucklefuck is campaigning and threatening.

        If democracy dies it will be because we punished those who broke the rules to strengthen it and defended those who broke the rules to destroy it.

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          If democracy dies it will be because we punished those who broke the rules to strengthen it and defended those who broke the rules to destroy it.

          What a bar. We need to get this on a mountain or something.

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        Playing devils advocate here, Trump has a history of wriggling out of what looked like slam dunk cases against him, and being an ex-president comes with truck loads of political baggage, so the DOJ might just be playing things extra-careful. It would make sense for them to double and triple check everything, dot all their i’s and cross all their t’s, and make sure everything is as utterly airtight as they can make it. The real danger is that they don’t go so slow that the whole thing becomes moot because they took so long that Trump managed to make himself dictator in chief.

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          It would make sense for them to double and triple check everything, dot all their i’s and cross all their t’s, and make sure everything is as utterly airtight as they can make it.

          absolutely. and he got impeached twice, so he’s been playing safe.

          The president also is ultimately the head of the “Departments” to include the Dept of Defense. All of the clearances and document classifications exist via presidential authority, so there are some genuine questions as to if a President can snap his fingers and change a classification, and how those rules interact with other laws about unauthorized disclosures. Which is also why Trump getting elected was such a coup for the Russians, as was a strongly Republican Supreme Court (who could bail him out if/when it gets to SCOTUS).

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              Exactly. Imagine how the intelligence community would have to treat classified information if it could be declassified purely by a President waking up and thinking “it’s declassified.” Nobody would know what is still classified and what isn’t. Classified information might get leaked out because of a rumor that the President declassified something. Declassified information might still be treated as classified by some because nobody knows what is and what isn’t classified.

              There’s a process for a reason. Trump suggesting he can just “think” it declassified is totally ridiculous.

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        I’m not defending him, but it much more complicated with a former president and presidential candidate than it is for others. There shouldn’t be two systems, but realistically one could result in civil war and the other is little more than a couple of extra clicks on a website for most people.

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      That’s not a problem. Anyone can campaign at any time. That’s totally legal and fine.

      What’s absolutely absurd is the level of support he still gets from Republicans! He owns them.

      If some former Democrat president did this stuff the support from Democrats for that person would be near zero. No one would consider such a candidacy even remotely within the realm of possibility.

      Republicans just don’t give a shit about corruption. Some will see this statement and say, “no, they care about it when it’s not one of their people” but that’s 100% the same thing. Corruption is all about picking winners and losers based on what your side thinks of them.

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        I mean, we’ve literally already established that overt corruption “just makes you smart.”

        This is what republicans are voting for. They are fine with corruption if it means they win.

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        I’m curious what percentage of republicans actually support him vs what percentage only pretends to support him under duress because of violent threats from the crazies.

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          It’s tribalism. I went to a racetrack last weekend. These people wave Trump flags and wear profane Brandon shirts to fit in with each other. The madder you are, the “smarter” you are. Another Lemming recently said, the founding father’s failed to anticipate that voters would fail at their job, and he’s 1 million percent dead on.

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            They anticipated it. That, and classism, are why they instituted The Electoral College. They didn’t have access to the mathematical theories that proved that FPTP elections are always going to cause a two party system, and the people will inevitably lose to the owners. That may have influenced them to consider RCV, or some other voting methods.

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      And his cult still carries on. And those traitorous fuckers have the gall to call themselves patriots.

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      Remember when politicians at the peaks of their careers resigned over a foot in their mouth, a mispronunciation (or spelling potatoe), being exposed for being a dick?

      Mf is giving handjobs in front of kids talking about trans pedophiles and she’s not even reprimanded.

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      He’s allowed to campaign from prison if convicted, too. Eugene Debs did it, after all. Logistically, I’m not sure how it’d work with a former president. If he’s ever locked up, it’s going to have to be in a supermax, for his own safety. The Unabomber’s old cell in ADX Florence will be the perfect fit for the needs of a former president and fellow Ivy League graduate! But at any rate, there’s no law stopping him from campaigning by mail.