• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    Although at least in prison, they’ll at least get a chance to get some medical care. Housing them won’t help there. This is why we need universal healthcare.

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      You are way more likely to acquire an infection in prison (bacterial or viral) and have your health conditions ignored or downplayed than you are to get any real access to medical care.

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        I gave blood recently. One of the questions they ask you is have you been in jail or juvi recently. I assume for the reason you stated above. I.E. having been in jail makes your blood less desireable. Not sure if they’ll actually reject you, but they sure ask.

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          Might also be a more polite way to essentially ask the question “were you possibly raped in prison” as gay/anal sex is still something that prevents you from donating blood unless it’s with a clean long term partner.

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      Absolutely, the US needs universal healthcare. But not everyone on the internet is American. Tons of us live in places that already offer health care, but still have a long ways to go for helping the homeless.

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      Yeah indeed that explains the hilighted /fact/.

      housing → just housing

      prison → housing + clothing + medical + dential + psychological aid? + food + legal costs getting them into prison + legal aid + security + education + /basic/ recreation/entertainment (in some prisons)…

      The meme tries to imply one cost prevents the other. Perhaps, but I guess I’m not instantly convinced. That’s not to say people shouldn’t be provided housing anyway just on humanitarian grounds. Housing is a human right (article 25).

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          Sure, but I was focused on costs. In the US prisons are privatized. I wouldn’t be surprised if the private company running the prison charged for more healthcare than what they actually provide. Or if they charged the state a much higher amount than their actual cost. Prison privatization opens things up to all kinds of shenannigans.

          Also worth noting that all the big banks in the US finance private prisons… which creates incentives to fill the prisons. So good idea for USians to boycott the listed banks.

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            Over 90% of incarcerated people are not in private prisons. They’re a problem for sure, but it isn’t every or even most prisons that are private. The problems with incarceration in the US can’t simply be blamed on private greed, they are primarily an outgrowth and continuation of slavery perpetuated by state governments and the federal government.

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      A large part of the problem is that many don’t want help. Taking antipsychotics sucks in a huge way, as well as quitting most hard drugs. (these demographics account for ~80% of the chronically homeless)

      Universal Healthcare won’t change much since you currently can’t force someone to take their meds or quit drugs.

      Chronic homelessness is a problem that won’t be solved by throwing more housing or money at it. It’s a super nuanced problem that requires changes at a societal level to address (which won’t happen)

      A lot of people seem to think the majority of homeless are those who are just down on their luck, but that’s just not true.

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        Having a stable home would already make it so much easier to quit drugs and improve their mental health. In addition, saying otherwise is the same as saying they don’t deserve a place to live because they have mental health issues/are addicted/whatever. That sucks. Everyone should have a home.

        And this is assuming that people get addicted first and then become homeless, and not the other way around.

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          “It’s more complex than saying a single thing causes homelessness” does NOT mean “that single thing plays no part in causing homelessness” Jesus learn some critical thinking skills