• TheGreatFox@lemm.ee
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        their new homes

        You mean the land that they illegally stole from Palestinian civilians, butchering anyone that refused to be made homeless?

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            The only claim I recognize to the land currently being fought over is that of The Kingdom of Jerusalem as proclaimed in 1099 by Godfrey of Bouillon. The title has passed to the current rightful claimant of the Kingdom, His Majesty Felipe VI, King of Spain. I demand the restoration of the rightful Catholic monarch as the blessings of the One True Church is the only way to bring peace to the Holy Land. We’ve tried allowing the Hebrew and the Saracen to govern the territory and we’ve witnessed nothing but chaos as they squabble over their false doctrines and heresies, shedding their unholy blood on the land that rightfully belongs to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, to be administered by his divinely appointed representative, Felipe VI.

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            Isn’t this the same argument Israel is using? That this land historically belonged to them, and they are entitled to it and have all the rights to evict Palestinians, because you know, history.

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              They don’t evict Palestinians, though. While on the other hand many Palestinians want to kill or exile all Jews from the area (which is the majority of Israelis).

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                  A very quick internet search proves otherwise.

                  I am not sure you should speak on this topic if you’re this ill informed.

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      I don’t think there’s an “at this point”, rather it’s something he’s always tried doing. Corrupt authoritarians/fascists constantly try to push the boundaries and once they go too far, they either go “it was a joke/accident/misunderstanding” or they double down on it. Putin doubled down the last time he went too far, I wonder what Netanyahu will do.

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      Seems like it. Crazy how much leeway Israel gets, any other country doing this wouldn’t have as much support.

      I hope the US puts its foot down hard at some point.

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      As long as he has the backing of the US he’ll operate with impunity. I dont think he cares what any other country thinks.

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    The prisoners have to be punished brutally for daring to retaliate against their conditions.

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        You need to be more specific. Are you talking about the civilians inside the prison? Or the civilians outside the prison?

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        I assume you’re trying to construe these kinds of statements as support or justification for Hamas’ attack. That’s mostly not the case. I don’t think many people condone it. I know I find it unjustifiable. However I think the reasons why it happened are explainable and at least somewhat understandable.

        The conditions the Palestinians have been driven to , largely by the Israeli military/government and the illegal settlers have created a situation where they feel there aren’t many other options. It doesn’t make the attacks any less horrific. It doesn’t make the attacks right. It doesn’t make them justified. But it does make them practically inevitable.

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    Israel is going to slow down cooperating as long as they can, so there’s as much death as possible, while still being able to say they allowed them to live.

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      Yeah, they will ultimately cooperate as the USA and Europe increasingly go “hey guys, please no genocide”, but as slow and as little as they can.

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        Reading between the lies, it looks like Biden is trying to really hammer home the message that Hamas is different from Palestinian civilians and that the latter should be protected. Abbas issued a condemnation of Hamas after Biden spoke with him, even though initially Abbas excused the attack.

        We’ll have to see how successful it is. Judging from who they’re asking to stay quiet on this, I think Biden and only the highest ranking officials are trying to back channel here.

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      Yeah, was listening to BBC this morning -Tim Franks interviewing Israeli intelligence about allowing fuel through to get water pumps going again. It was very clear the answer was no, but they refused to say so directly. The interviewee became hostile and kept going on about how hamas uses these people as human shields. … Is the west supposed to think dying of thirst the more humanitarian option? Is that what they’re going for? jfc

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        Someone said the pipes are too fucked by the bombing and TBH that makes sense. But assuming they’re ok, can you even get water pumps going again safely?

        I’ve heard that pipes always leak and you need to keep constant pressure in the lines so the leak is out into the soil instead of losing pressure and letting the dirt and bacteria leak back into the water supply.

        I suppose dirty water can be boiled and is better than water with heavy metals… Anybody with any actual experience wanna speak up about this?

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      My understanding is they’d need Israeli cooperation to ensure the area Gaza-side would be safe from bombardment.

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        Do you have a source for this? Everything I’ve read has stated that that border is controlled by Egypt and Hamas.