Cartridge-based consoles have often been celebrated for their robust and reliable media. You put a simple ROM chip in a tough plastic housing, make sure the contacts are fit for purpose, and you sh…
That sounds sketch asf. Just dump the save file with a flasher. That RAM chip is writeable from the cart pins or it wouldn’t work as save data. Cheap flashers come in at ~$25. Dump, solder, reupload.
Why? The battery is just a current, and while the gameboy is on, it’s supplying the current instead.
What you’re suggesting is far more work and steps, and any transfer can corrupt.
There’s no way this can go wrong unless you turn the power off or disconnect the cartridges pins from the mount. Which can happen while using the transfers as well….
You don’t even need a computer, just the cart and a gameboy, and a screwdriver. It’s funny what people think is easier while including a dozen unnecessary extra steps that introduce issues at each step. And costs money.
IIRC from various board schematics at a previous job, typically you have the battery connected into the relevant voltage supply with a diode. So when that Vcc line for your memory module or real time clock is powered externally, the battery just sits idle since there’s no voltage drop across the diode to get current flowing from the battery.
It works well because it’s analog and fast and solid state. And yeah as long as you don’t bump other parts or break something, if you swapped the battery on a powered system it should be fine.
Oh yes batteries are very scary and shouldn’t be touched. Sounds like you just don’t understand how batteries work and are afraid of doing something simple. So you’ve made it more complicated and costly, to avoid… idk even know what. Replacing a battery isn’t sketchy, it’s friggen hilarious you claim it is. This applies to ANYTHING with a battery fyi.
I asked the person, and they couldn’t articulate what the issue was. They seem to think removing a live battery is dangerous, they never stated otherwise.
Some people think you can’t replace a battery while the equipment is on, you can replace your car battery while it’s running. There’s literally no danger involved ever.
People who fix machines for a living make sure they neutralize energy sources wherever possible just because. There’s no actual reason for turning off equipment before you work on it. You’ll never drop a wrench or touch something hot. Just yolo that shit, what could go wrong?
You understand there are circumstances where you need to work live?
Yes LOTO/try is needed when working on actual dangerous stuff, batteries, which aren’t having a current run through since the equipment isn’t on. Isn’t dangerous.
You’ll never drop a wrench
Leash.
touch something hot.
Put a blanket down.
Just yolo that shit, what could go wrong?
If you are taking something “apart” to fix it, I would assume the person has some knowledge and a modicum of critical thought and will figure out ways to deal with mundane issues.
Or yknow. The 3ds you presumably own to play these games. Takes about 20 minutes and an sd card to go from stock to clicking a button and backing up the save file (or whole game). No need to open carts or buy more products.
Thread’s about the 3ds. For GBA you need DS homebrew and a Phat/Lite console. For GB you need a custom device or an n64 with transfer pak and flashcart.
This is part of why physical copies are not preservationist, by the way. Turning that physical copy into a preservable, emulated-accurately ROM is the end point. The only value physical copies have are as collectible knickknacks (which hey! Collectible knickknacks rule!)
You can replace the battery while the game is running to preserve the save. Need to have a few customized pieces though.
That sounds sketch asf. Just dump the save file with a flasher. That RAM chip is writeable from the cart pins or it wouldn’t work as save data. Cheap flashers come in at ~$25. Dump, solder, reupload.
Why? The battery is just a current, and while the gameboy is on, it’s supplying the current instead.
What you’re suggesting is far more work and steps, and any transfer can corrupt.
There’s no way this can go wrong unless you turn the power off or disconnect the cartridges pins from the mount. Which can happen while using the transfers as well….
You don’t even need a computer, just the cart and a gameboy, and a screwdriver. It’s funny what people think is easier while including a dozen unnecessary extra steps that introduce issues at each step. And costs money.
IIRC from various board schematics at a previous job, typically you have the battery connected into the relevant voltage supply with a diode. So when that Vcc line for your memory module or real time clock is powered externally, the battery just sits idle since there’s no voltage drop across the diode to get current flowing from the battery.
It works well because it’s analog and fast and solid state. And yeah as long as you don’t bump other parts or break something, if you swapped the battery on a powered system it should be fine.
How exactly are you going to get at the battery while the cartridge is inside the Game Boy, with the PCB facing inwards?
If you claim this is doable, let alone easy, I’d like to see a video of it.
As I said customized, you take your gameboy apart if needed, but usually that’s not even needed.
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Don’t worry buddy. A coworker flipped out on me once for replacing a cmos battery while a machine was on. 🤷
There’s a bit of difference doing it on a gameboy, and doing it in a running PC with spinning fans and such.
If you know how to replace a CMOS battery, you know how to disable a fan. And even if you don’t, it’s not gonna bite your finger off 😂
Fair point. I was more concerned about dropping it in, and then catapulting a small metal disc into some very expensive electronics.
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Oh yes batteries are very scary and shouldn’t be touched. Sounds like you just don’t understand how batteries work and are afraid of doing something simple. So you’ve made it more complicated and costly, to avoid… idk even know what. Replacing a battery isn’t sketchy, it’s friggen hilarious you claim it is. This applies to ANYTHING with a battery fyi.
Nobody is saying the battery itself is the dangerous part, though you beat up that strawman!
I asked the person, and they couldn’t articulate what the issue was. They seem to think removing a live battery is dangerous, they never stated otherwise.
Some people think you can’t replace a battery while the equipment is on, you can replace your car battery while it’s running. There’s literally no danger involved ever.
People who fix machines for a living make sure they neutralize energy sources wherever possible just because. There’s no actual reason for turning off equipment before you work on it. You’ll never drop a wrench or touch something hot. Just yolo that shit, what could go wrong?
You understand there are circumstances where you need to work live?
Yes LOTO/try is needed when working on actual dangerous stuff, batteries, which aren’t having a current run through since the equipment isn’t on. Isn’t dangerous.
Leash.
Put a blanket down.
If you are taking something “apart” to fix it, I would assume the person has some knowledge and a modicum of critical thought and will figure out ways to deal with mundane issues.
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nice job handling being wrong
They aren’t.
How’s it sketchy? It’s no different than doing it dead, and it removes plenty of other steps.
Flashers cost money, corrupt, lots of people want to stay true and that creates an avenue for cheating and other stuff that isn’t true to original.
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You…. Uhh… don’t need to solder it back on. Conductive tape, this also makes it simpler for next time, since it’ll happen again.
And a piece of cardboard levels out the work area. These are all non-issues you are making into mole hills and then mountains.
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You’re the one talking like your way is the only right way.
Someone was providing some knowledge about how to save their saves.
Or yknow. The 3ds you presumably own to play these games. Takes about 20 minutes and an sd card to go from stock to clicking a button and backing up the save file (or whole game). No need to open carts or buy more products.
Or you can just run some software on your 3ds and have it done instantly, without opening any cartridges or buying any products. Need help getting it running? Here you go.
How does that replace the battery?
The person I responded to is talking about gameboy carts that have a cmos that needs to be replaced once in a while.
So those programs aren’t even for what the person wants.
Thread’s about the 3ds. For GBA you need DS homebrew and a Phat/Lite console. For GB you need a custom device or an n64 with transfer pak and flashcart.
This is part of why physical copies are not preservationist, by the way. Turning that physical copy into a preservable, emulated-accurately ROM is the end point. The only value physical copies have are as collectible knickknacks (which hey! Collectible knickknacks rule!)
Post is, thread isn’t dude…
I’ve got no time for someone who can’t even read context before bloviating about some irrelevant tangent.
Also, it’s incredibly obvious you are upvoting your comments with an alt, I suggest you stop that before yo get reported.
Mmmm delicious meaningful Lemmy karma slurp slurp slurp, gotta spin up some bots for that delicious lemmy karma