If I switched on the news tomorrow and the headline is “The USA has bombed…”, any country or continent could be at the end of that sentence and my surprise (or lack of) would be the same.

The USA is being run with no guard rails by a deranged dictator, backed up by white supremacists and corporate robber barons. Any country is fair game including NATO members, in response the UK should switch to a war economy.

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    in response the UK should switch to a war economy

    I was with you right up until the last line. In response the UK should be at the forefront of ostracising America. Publicly declaring that our “special relationship” with our “greatest ally” is dead because they are run by fascist white supremacists.

    Instead, we’re actively helping them in their fascist endeavours.

    https://www.thecanary.co/global/world-analysis/2026/01/05/uk-involvement-venezuela/

    https://libertyinvestigates.org.uk/articles/uk-police-working-with-controversial-tech-giant-palantir-on-real-time-surveillance-network/

    https://www.theregister.com/2025/09/20/uk_palantir_defense_pact/

    https://bmmagazine.co.uk/news/starlink-set-to-power-rural-nhs-gp-surgeries-in-england/

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp9jxvx0zjmo

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      The UK will be the LAST country to break ties with the US because the “special relationship” is just code for Nuclear Dependency.

      The UK in early stages of the cold war had a choice; build a joint missile, reactor, and warhead with DeGaul and the French OR buy systems from the US. They chose to go with the US.

      The UK supposedly has “Command Independence” over its nuclear weapons, i.e. we can launch without US approval, but the middle technology is US bought as are the warheads and nuclear materials. The only thing we do is build the launch platform (Trident capable Submarines) and install the nuclear materials into the warheads and afix the warheads to the missiles.

      I fucking hate it.

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      Ugh starmer is such a prick.

      I know the conservatives very likely would be doing the exact same thing. I hate them too.

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      I also agree with virtually all this except

      Publicly declaring that our “special relationship” with our “greatest ally” is dead

      Putting ourselves into a war economy by ramping up defense spending, lowering luxury imports, increasing stockpiles of vital materials, and reducing reliance of foreign finished goods will signal that we are prepared for any eventually without having to declare anything.

      Moving away from global tech services and developing our own is vital as part of this. Germany are already well ahead of us, and we should follow suit by removing reliance on US social media and technology as quickly as possible.

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    I don’t like to just wait. I’d like to have Europes warships positioned between the US and Greenland. I’d like to have Greenlands ports mined and only the local tugboat crews knowing where the mines are. I’d like Greenland to get some extra air defense, too (even tho that’s difficult with Ukraine needing those too).

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      A few more entirely European built warships wouldn’t be a bad thing, but let’s try and leave sea mines out of future wars, they have a nasty habit of getting detached and end up floating the oceans and killing civilians.

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        Yeah, mines suck, not just sea mines, but if you’re up against a multi trillion € army, you better get ready to use the ugliest unmanned contraptions you can get your hands on.

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    The US is also in a civil war. Even if trumps opposition has not recognised it yet. Trump and his supporters are actively involved in a take over by force.

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    The trouble is that every country wants someone else to be the Vietnam/Ukraine/Falklands that breaks the regime, so they’re all playing at placation and containment for the time being.

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    No, war would be an entirely different experience.

    As it is, everyone is still talking in strongly worded letters, every day life is business as usual. There have been basically no consequences for the economy, trade and travel are still happening mostly normally (I think tourism is down less than 10%). There are no emergency taxes, restructuring of production, no draft…

    If you think this is bad, you need more context, look at actual regions affected by war and compare your nearest cities to that.

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      Let’s not get into a “my war is better than your war” contest. In the mind of a demented dictator we may already be at war with him, it’s prudent to prepare for that, or any country may be caught off guard.

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      What does a war economy look like? From elsewhere in the discussion:

      ramping up defense spending, lowering luxury imports, increasing stockpiles of vital materials, and reducing reliance of foreign finished goods… Moving away from global tech services and developing our own… removing reliance on US social media and technology as quickly as possible.

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      They did just bomb Venezuela and are threatening to take Greenland by force. It’s obvious that Trump had no moral compass at any point in his life, which is now compounded with dementia.

      Any country could be next and the US military appear to not be refusing orders right now, despite the lack of justification or senate approval for any of these actions.