Likely lots of people who had contact with Epstein did nothing wrong, at least not on that level.
He was collecting powerful people, in science, business, government, anything. One way to do that is to offer access to other important people. The ability to say to someone “I can connect you with Stephen Hawking” is currency.
The pedophilia ring and sex trafficking is the exact same thing – just a way to appeal to certain people.
I think it’s more interesting to talk about who the fuck gave Epstein a private island in one of the most stupidly expensive spits of sand on the entire planet. Likely the same people who killed him.
It’s not like Hawking and Epstein traded a few emails talking about science, or had a one off meeting. It appears they had a fair amount of exchanges over a long period of time.
Epstein was a vile human in the worst kind of way and I see no evidence that Hawking was blind to this fact. Half the people on this app wouldn’t willingly associate with someone of a different political party than them, but to defend a man who willingly spent time with a convicted sex trafficker? The fact that Hawking was paralyzed doesn’t absolve him from willingly enabling (and potentially partaking in) child abuse and sex trafficking.
I know one person IRL who was a frequenter of Little St John Island, aka Epstein Island. Wealthy man who made that trip regularly. He was not particularly attractive but he was wealthy. This is the place old wealthy men would go to get sexual satisfaction when nobody else will give it to them.
That is not true. There is no accountability if people keep protecting them. Leak his name. It will help current investigators. It will help future prosecutors. If you don’t do it here or elsewhere, then YOU are not better than him.
If you don’t do it here or elsewhere, then YOU are not better than him.
🙄
He’s my friend. I’m not going to doxx him on the internet under the meaningless pressure of some Lemmy stranger. He & I spent a whole year together having fun & biking & yoga & paddle boarding & swimming. The moment you begin to mean more to me than he does, then we’ll talk.
How is your behavior any different than the multitude in power and authority who turned a blind eye? Have you considered the life of those he abused? Have you considered the moral battle that is happening?
The moment you begin to mean more to me than he does, then we’ll talk.
Decency and a will against abject evil should be all that it takes to do the right thing. You don’t want to leak here? Fine. ProPublica.
ALS does not interfere with the ability to have erections or orgasms. If he became aroused he could get an erection, he’d just need to be on the recieving end due to his condition.
Even full on paraplegics have sex, they just use a special injection of Alprostadil beforehand.
What we have here is you misunderstanding ALS and using that misunderstanding to defend a notorious philanderer who is all over the Epstein files.
Then I come in to correct you about the nature of Hawking’s disease, and your overall ignorant view on disabled people’s sexual abilities. I don’t even say ‘this means Hawking raped kids’, I’m just correcting your ignorance here.
You then move the goal post while insulting me, hoping your hostility gets me to back away from the uncomfortable fact that you idolized a deeply flawed human being and are now providing free labour defending him in internet comments.
You may be an adult, but you clearly haven’t grown up.
What the fuck is he in the files for? What did he allegedly do? He’s bound to the chair!
Likely lots of people who had contact with Epstein did nothing wrong, at least not on that level.
He was collecting powerful people, in science, business, government, anything. One way to do that is to offer access to other important people. The ability to say to someone “I can connect you with Stephen Hawking” is currency.
The pedophilia ring and sex trafficking is the exact same thing – just a way to appeal to certain people.
I think it’s more interesting to talk about who the fuck gave Epstein a private island in one of the most stupidly expensive spits of sand on the entire planet. Likely the same people who killed him.
It’s not like Hawking and Epstein traded a few emails talking about science, or had a one off meeting. It appears they had a fair amount of exchanges over a long period of time.
Epstein was a vile human in the worst kind of way and I see no evidence that Hawking was blind to this fact. Half the people on this app wouldn’t willingly associate with someone of a different political party than them, but to defend a man who willingly spent time with a convicted sex trafficker? The fact that Hawking was paralyzed doesn’t absolve him from willingly enabling (and potentially partaking in) child abuse and sex trafficking.
I know one person IRL who was a frequenter of Little St John Island, aka Epstein Island. Wealthy man who made that trip regularly. He was not particularly attractive but he was wealthy. This is the place old wealthy men would go to get sexual satisfaction when nobody else will give it to them.
Name him
He’s not famous. He’s a very private person. Naming him would do no good. It would be like naming your next door neighbor. Nobody knows him.
That is not true. There is no accountability if people keep protecting them. Leak his name. It will help current investigators. It will help future prosecutors. If you don’t do it here or elsewhere, then YOU are not better than him.
🙄
He’s my friend. I’m not going to doxx him on the internet under the meaningless pressure of some Lemmy stranger. He & I spent a whole year together having fun & biking & yoga & paddle boarding & swimming. The moment you begin to mean more to me than he does, then we’ll talk.
How is your behavior any different than the multitude in power and authority who turned a blind eye? Have you considered the life of those he abused? Have you considered the moral battle that is happening?
Decency and a will against abject evil should be all that it takes to do the right thing. You don’t want to leak here? Fine. ProPublica.
It’s a little ableist to suggest that his being wheelchair-bound would necessarily prevent him from being a pedophile.
Are you implying he fucked?
ALS does not interfere with the ability to have erections or orgasms. If he became aroused he could get an erection, he’d just need to be on the recieving end due to his condition.
Even full on paraplegics have sex, they just use a special injection of Alprostadil beforehand.
I need you to understand something important. An erection and orgasm is absolutely not the same thing as raping a goddamn child.
Grow up. Take your heroes off their pedestal. Move on with your life.
I have no heroes. I’m an adult. Stop flinging weird accusations and deal with the post with an actual response.
Let’s take a look at thr comment chain
What we have here is you misunderstanding ALS and using that misunderstanding to defend a notorious philanderer who is all over the Epstein files.
Then I come in to correct you about the nature of Hawking’s disease, and your overall ignorant view on disabled people’s sexual abilities. I don’t even say ‘this means Hawking raped kids’, I’m just correcting your ignorance here.
You then move the goal post while insulting me, hoping your hostility gets me to back away from the uncomfortable fact that you idolized a deeply flawed human being and are now providing free labour defending him in internet comments.
You may be an adult, but you clearly haven’t grown up.