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    From my understanding, all the locals where this happened think this dude is a colossal dumbass.

    I think his legacy is slowly changing though, and people are less impressed by his antics today than when it happened.

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      He wasn’t a dumbass, he was just suicidal.
      He first left his privileged life, then his family and friends, then society. Typical steps of a suicidal person preparing for the end.
      If he actually wanted to keep living, he could have left the bus and simply walked back, 3 days before his provisions ran out (it takes 6 hours to get to the trailhead).
      But he stayed, even though he didn’t have the skills to live off the land. He accepted death, until it came close, then he regretted his decision and tried to get out but it was too late.

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        To me, this is the simplest and most plausible explanation.

        Somewhat related but it’s odd to me how many people I’ve met that feel so strongly negatively about him. Maybe as a herd instinct to warn others?

        He wasn’t exceptionally selfish as he had no serious responsibilities.

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          On June 18, 2020, various government agencies coordinated with an Alaska Army National Guard training mission to remove the bus, deemed a public safety issue after at least 15 people had to be rescued and at least two people died while attempting to cross the Teklanika River to reach the bus.[

          This BS is part of the reason, I think. Not only is he a dumbass, but he inspires other dumbasses to be the best dumbass they can.

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            Yeah, I haven’t read his book and have no strong opinions on him one way or another, but when the book came out, I remember him being presented to us as if he were some sort of spiritual or philosophical luminary to emulate, and it’s always rubbed me the wrong way.

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              Maybe, but having read the book I don’t think that’s what Krakauer was going for. The last chapter is basically a bunch of experts roasting him for making mistakes and getting himself killed.

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        I think he was stranded because of a flooded river though? From memory there was a reason he couldn’t just walk out.

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          The reason was him refusing to bring a map, which would have shown a bridge over the river less than a mile away.
          And not scouting out his environment either, or even trying a detour along the river, or improvising a raft…

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            stuff you learn in boy scouts when your 12. yeah… probably the best lesson I learned in boy scouts is that if you don’t want to die on a camping trip, you have enough supplies for twice the time, enough clothes for twice the time, a map, a compass, a good understanding of where every road out is, and a plan to bail out of your camp site for every hour of the day, and when medical problem 1 happens, you bail, and you bail fast, no one needs to die on a camping trip. I camped through a blizzard, I dug shelters in snow, I did a lot of crazy stuff, but I was never dangerously hungry, thirsty, injured, or in shock, and the tired old guys who only half wanted to do camp outs were the best, because they knew exactly how far was too far every time.

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        Privileged is a complicated term for his life. On one hand, yes from the outside, and especially as presented in the movie, it seems like he had a typically idyllic upper middle class life. But if you do any digging into it, you find out that his father was an extremely volatile, violent abuser and his mom wasn’t much better. That sort of childhood trauma is a hell of a thing and absolutely impacts someone’s mental state.

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        … , then he regretted his decision and tried to get out but it was too late.

        As good as all people that jumped of the Golden gate bridge and survived, regretted their decision the second they jumped.