• lugal@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    No! We can’t work together with people who want something else just because they call themselves leftists, too

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      11 months ago

      Yeah, I’m a leftist, I just think landlords have their place, billionaires are job creators, and if we disrupt the status quo too much the global south might stop giving us resources for nothing- A Great Mind

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          11 months ago

          I think exactly that way and am as left as you can be in the Finnish mainstream party system, with the exception of small sub-1% parties like the Communist Party.

          Landlords & Billionaires = living, breathing taxation waiting to happen

          Even if we were to tax a billionaire by 80%, they would probably still be a billionaire. However, they would also indeed be creating jobs, wealth and sustainable growth. School systems, medicine, hospitals, city infrastructure, job placement programmes, you name it, they fund it.

          Corporate tax is also grossly under-utilized.

          Capitalism isn’t bad if you tax it hard and use the money for the welfare of citizens.

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              11 months ago

              I’m answering from the perspective of living in a country with functional democracy, so it’s hard to see the power the wealthy have over it.

              Lobbying and representative campaign funding are more transparent here. No party has majority seats alone, coalition governments are a necessity. Legislation is consensus driven.

              Finland is very much operating in a capitalism driven economy while still supplying its citizens socialism driven security.

              Capitalism is like fire. It’s a good tool, but a bad master. With appropriate legislative checks in place, it won’t get out of control.

              In the States it already has, but that doesn’t mean that capitalism is bad. Just that nobody was tending the fire.

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                  11 months ago

                  On a global scale you’re right.

                  If we’re discussing the scope of a nation, strong enough tax laws and safeguards for unions prevent ludicrous growth within its own contained system. This can allow people to experience a reasonably fair society.

                  Finland definitely is still benefiting off of cheap labour from poorer nations though. How to solve that especially if our country wants to retain its status, I would not know where to start. World domination?

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        11 months ago

        If we don’t support the landchads, the wagies and rentoids might take control and believe they have rights

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      11 months ago

      We can’t work together with people who want something different …

      This is why free markets are important, incidentally

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        11 months ago

        There are people I agree with from different leftist traditions, but then again there are people I disagree with on all these traditions, too. I even have overlap with some (lower case) conservative people when it comes to ecological questions