• takeda@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      There are no good guys on either side, there are innocent people that do die on both sides of this conflict though.

      It isn’t so black and white.

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        11 months ago

        Israel vs. hamas? fuck them both. israel vs. the civilians they’re killing en mass? fuck israel. remember that hamas hasn’t allowed elections since 2006 they don’t represent the will of gazans

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        11 months ago

        on either side

        There are more than two sides here.

        Plenty of Jewish Israelis don’t support Netanyahu and plenty of Palestinians - half of whom are just children - don’t support Hamas.

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        La dee da look who thinks they’re special. Somebody who claims to know the truth. The truth is that Zionists stole the land they live on and subjugated the Palestinians and made them second class citizens and then violently colonized their lands. It’s no surprise that a violent resistance arose. One would have arisen in any country under those conditions. Anybody who says both sides are bad is utterly ignorant of history. The Zionists started this violence and are reaping their rewards.

        That being said I wish no ill will upon most Israeli citizens. Most of them despise Netanyahu and his government. However, they should have never been there in the first place. This is simply what happens when the West thinks to meddle in the Middle East.

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              11 months ago

              Say that to Bertrand Rusell as my username is a direct quote from the title of one of his works.

              the value of work is a moral prejudice of the privileged classes who believe that the absence of activity would lead most men, especially those of the poorer classes, to idleness and depravity. Consequently, it would be in the interest of men to be exploited.

              Oh no. What a pig. To lick his master’s boots by criticizing them…

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                11 months ago

                It’s sure some criticism of the ruling class to fall hook, line, and sinker for their promotion of war (Israel) and believe that Palestinians are bad.

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      11 months ago

      That’s understandable, but every complex situation requires a good deal of nuance. In this case, for example, not all Israelis are Zionists (anymore than all Palestinians are Hamas), and not even all Zionists (or Hamas) are “bad guys.” There are clearly some fucked up political agendas at work, and could well be more bad actors on one side than the other, and if you look close even “sides” become blurred. But there are definitely agents working to accentuate that distinction, and I don’t trust any of them. Which is different from saying all sides are the same. All I know is that war, greed, and power are all bad, and that good people are suffering, but beyond that I don’t know enough to take a public stand (though I’m working on some opinions).

      Edit: let me clarify. I’m not trying to be neutral either. When I see something happening in my immediate world, in front of me, I will say/act for the common good. But I’m not going to read something online, about a place I’ve never been, and take a public opinion about it. I trust that there are people there, in that place, that are doing what I would do, and I hope they succeed.