• Arancello@aussie.zone
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    3 months ago

    Am i understanding this correctly? They washed the floor with drumpf face, got hundreds of billions in war reparations, keep their nukes and missiles AND now charge transit fees for Hormuz Strait. If this is the usa winning, I’m going to invite you to a poker game.

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      Iran doesn’t have nukes and the 94 year old we murdered on day 1 said nukes were anti-humanity and a sin against god.

      But yes, Trump is doing the thing he should have done day 1. Instead of murdering 173 school children.

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        There’s no reason for them to not make nukes now, perhaps they would’ve stuck with that fatwa if they didn’t have crimes against humanity committed against them. Perhaps they are more principled than my pragmatic ass but I don’t see a reason for them to not make nukes.

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      Probably, but we still don’t have the details so it could be even worse for him!

      But even before we have the details, it is clear that Trump has failed to achieve every one of the goals he put forward for this war of choice […]

      (it also hasn’t been signed yet so there’s still time for it to fall apart)

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      Almost none of that is true.

      Iran had to take a almost one-sided deal.

      we(I am an iranian) don’t keep “our nuke” because we didn’t have any.

      and of course we don’t limit our missiles, are we retarded or something that specially after this western war give up our one deterrent?

      I don’t think any fee will be placed on the strait.

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      Be careful what you wish for they’ll let you win in poker so they can rape children in your basement while you’re busy counting chips: don’t underestimate them, they’re doing exactly what they want to do.

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      3 months ago

      But the Dow! it’s over 50k, you can’t blame the president when the Dow is as high as that!

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    3 months ago

    I don’t understand the surprise, Iran has won the war, it’s obvious

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      This is all grand standing to make things settle down for the UFC July 4 party. Then it will be back to killing children because something something happened. No money will be sent to Iran. Israel might slow down the genocide but only in the news.

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      The war isn’t over, and while Iran didn’t lose it, they didn’t win it either, lebanon especially didn’t win it.

      This thing won’t end, just cool down for a bit as Israel occupies lebanon and wastes people regularly while the US tries to keep Iran from honoring their commitment to their allies.

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    Mock the old aging pedo all you want, but he did this all in your name whether you voted for him or not. It’s an American humiliation as much as it is a Trump one.

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      It’s definitely an american humilation but I don’t see how people condemning him for a decade are “just as” anything as the pedophile.

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      Yes and I’m sure your leaders are pure as the driven snow. I bet your politicians suck too, and that you will follow us to fascism, soon. They might take away your high horse.

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        By no means are they pure, but dude, you could drive 60 tractors, side-by-side, between our version of a bad leader and your guy.

        Guess what? You already know that too.

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          You say that, yet your leaders are selling you out as we speak. Just because they don’t say dumb shit doesn’t mean they aren’t instituting chatcontrol, or it’s evolution, age controls on social media.

          Do you even live in reality?

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            You are saying that from a libertarian perspective (or seem to). The Australian government’s social media controls for children are very popular here as social media is very harmful to children.

            You can’t compare that to America bombing a girl’s school and killing 174 children by your military, and in your country’s name.

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              Just because people in Australia trust the wrong people, or less charitably are fucking stupid, doesn’t mean they would support what is happening if they pulled their head out of the ass of the billionaires.

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                If you are American, just read your own situation before lecturing anyone else. As far as I am aware, my country is having negligible negative effects to other countries. Your country is a blight upon civilisation.

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      It’s possible for us all to lose. Good chance of a famine six months from now because so much of the northern hemisphere couldn’t get fertilizer during planting season and the US decided to make food for cows and cars instead of for people

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      If this administration could be humiliated they’d have been booted out his first term and never even been in the running again. And if not first term, certainly early last year. The writing has been on the wall for ages and everyone just keeps ignoring it.

      The only way this war was going to end was either a huge escalation, or something like this. Hard to say if Trump will benefit in some way from whatever deal he made, but I he and his family have benefitted from the war already.

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    It’s not over, not by a long shot, any memorandum of agreement on a framework to negotiate a ceasefire Israel style notwithstanding.

    Israel isn’t withdrawing from Lebanon for one thing. Who thinks they won’t keep systematically wasting people and turn it into ghettos? The only question is if Iran will throw them under the bus and keep the straits open as Israel goes nazi on lebanon.

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    BS framing on this story. If trumps not lying, which is a big IF, its not an “iranian victory”, its a victory for the planet, including for American citizens. The only losers here are fascist Israelis which pleases me to no end.