• MikuNPC@lemm.ee
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      11 months ago

      I’m aware of what happened in 2000, don’t get me wrong. But my point is recent events have been far more egregious, dangerous and unprecedented.

      Trying to compare the 2 is uninformed at best, bad faith at worst.

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        11 months ago

        Wow, fuck you very much. Trump’s FAILED coup is more dangerous and egregious that Bush’s SUCCESSFUL coup? Trump’s complete lack of power is more dangerous than Bush redestroying the middle east on false pretences of chemical and nuclear weapons, mobilising terrorist attacks and organisations worldwide?

        The only excuse for such a pathetically stupid statement is that you’re a little baby who wasn’t around for any of the last 2 decades and are just making things up based on vibes. “wah wah wah, I can’t remember bush so nothing must have happened”. You are an embarrassment. Delete your account and jump in the ocean.

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            11 months ago

            Idk I think Bush is definitely smarter seeing as he never suffered any consequences and Trump has been charged with crimes.

            As our friend Parenti says:

            Are our leaders stupid? Or are we stupid for not seeing how successful they really are at getting what they want?

            Patriot act and everything else under Bush vs Trump getting some new hogs in Mara Lago

            • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]@hexbear.net
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              11 months ago

              no I’ve seen bush talk he is stupid. Bush didn’t get in trouble because he has manners. The establishment doesn’t hate Trump for who he is he’s an old money rich guy maing tax cuts and hating immigrants ffs he is the establishment. Trump gets in trouble because he has no filter and says things which make the American establishment look like a bunch of assholes in front of their society friends and in Europe

              He is the most American president they’ve ever had and he’s just embarassing

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                11 months ago

                Say what you will, but that’s stupid to me.

                He has the bag and then suffers consequences for apparently no gain besides saying what hogs want to hear whereas Bush also cut taxes, literally stole 2 elections, and lied the US into trillion dollar wars with no consequence and is seen as a painter now who makes Masterclasses

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                  11 months ago

                  They will redeem Trump one day.

                  Trump says that shit because it gets attention and he also hasn’t actually faced consequences yet and is very much on track to win the republican nomination and I wouldn’t rule him out for presidency

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                    11 months ago

                    Oh yeah I still think it’s a coin flip if he’s president in a year and change, don’t get me wrong, I just think Bush was able to accomplish all Trump did and much more with even less consequence

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        11 months ago

        Your metrics are just vibe-based then.

        2000 was absolutely more of a coup than Jan 6th by almost every functional metric. Your main criticism of Jan 6th and Trump are based more on civility than actual policy. Nothing about Trump was uniquely terrible for a Republican president policy wise, he just said the quiet part out loud.

        • mar_k [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          11 months ago

          Lmao liberals will tell you we narrowly escaped the MAGA Reich because some incompetent losers broke a few windows and smeared human shit on the walls