• machinin@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Eliminate Likud and the IDF while we’re at it. Eliminate all terrorists from the area.

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      11 months ago

      I’m with you, I hate the Likud party, and Hamas is the reason Bibi and them are in power. If you don’t understand that, just do a little historical research.

      And blanket stating that the IDF is terrorists is ridiculous. I know it’s hip and trendy right now to say, but that doesn’t make it true.

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        11 months ago

        At this point, what is the difference between Hamas and the IDF? The only difference is the amount of weapons and money behind the 2 groups.

        It’s not just the hip thing to say. The IDF is a genocidal tool of the Israeli state terrorizing the Palestinian people.

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          11 months ago

          The difference is Hamas ALWAYS has and openly targets civilians. The IDF is trying to minimize them in one of the densest urban war theaters ever (chosen by and forced by Hamas who is co-locating and using it as a shield).

          You don’t seem to understand the civilian casualties that would occur if the IDF were intentionally seeking to target civilians. You’d be looking at hundreds of thousands or even millions. And you would NOT risk your troops on the ground with that plan. They have the ability to end this with no troops on the ground, but not while minimizing casualties.

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            11 months ago

            I’m sure the 18,000+ dead civilians appreciate the fact that they weren’t openly trying to be killed. I’m sure the thousands of civilians in detention without charges are also glad to hear that the IDF isn’t doing all this out in the open.

            Israel is a genocidal state terrorizing the Palestinian people. It must be broken.

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              11 months ago

              You diminish the term genocide when you misuse it. And yes, Hamas murdering 18,000 civilians by using them as shields and intentionally trying to force as many civilian casualties as possible is horrific. It’s part of why I support hunting them all down and killing them.

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                11 months ago

                like how supporters of the genocide like to split hairs and quibble over the definition of genocide rather than just admit “genocide is bad”

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        11 months ago

        I think you have it backwards. Bibi is the reason Hamas is in power.

        Maybe there’s some truth to it the way you said it, but this is literally objective reality. He directly supported Hamas.

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          11 months ago

          There wouldn’t even be a Bibi without them. He would have lost, and Perez would have moved forward with two states and Arafat (who Hamas would have also had a harder time removing).

          The bottom line is I think we can agree they’re bedfellows, yeah? Hamas has been trying to make this conflict happen their entire existence. They want maximum Palestian casualties in the hopes of expanding the war to more nations than just their allies like Quatar, Iran, and the Houthis.

          Never look to me to defend Bibi and the Likud. Many war criminals there I’d like to see taken to the Hague.

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            11 months ago

            Hamas has been trying to make this conflict happen their entire existence

            Hamas wouldn’t exist without the atrocities of Israel and the IOF – Hamas was created afterwards (long afterwards)