So seven minutes after Zima posted about a mystery stalker dogging his every comment, you jumped in on the thread with a complaint about something he posted two weeks ago, which when you subsequently linked to it was clearly not saying what you’re accusing him of saying and makes you sound like some sort of vindictive crazy person?
What a coincidence!
Let’s see if a Fuckyoufacedeer account appears now.
Edit: Oh, another amazing coincidence: nine minutes after Fuckyouzima downvoted Zima’s two-week-old comment, you also downvoted his two-week-old comment. And then two minutes later you made your first comment in this thread. We can see who downvotes what and when, you know.
Are you good? A guy complained about brigading downvotes, I checked if maybe the person complaining was just an asshole (as sometimes it turns out when people complain folks are out to get them). They were.
I have never heard of Zima before this post, and I have better things to do than brigade vote people on fake accounts.
I never complained about you voting down my every comment. that’s fine if you do that i’ll do the same to you.
I complained about the alt account with \username. but I guess facts are irrelevant to trolls like you.
I never downvoted your every comment, I don’t even know who you are beyond the guy who downvoting my giving condolences to someone mourning their dead father, so thanks for that.
let me make it simpler for you. you mischaracterized the creation of an alt account to stalk somoene as “A guy complained about brigading downvotes” you should slow down and reconsider the facts.
for the fifth time. people that want to be willfully ignorant of history and feel entitled to reparations might be angry at me and others that might have arguments against it but that doesnt mean they should be allowed to creat alt accounts dedicated to harrass me.
By dismissing OPs concerns about harassment and suggesting OP is at fault because their opinions “suck”, you are suggesting that OP is at fault for having the wrong opinions, and thus deserving any harassment they receive.
I never said that. but thanks for letting us know your true feelings. I’m pretty sure the stalker was offended for the same reason as you are, I’m pretty sure of his real account as well but it’s irrelevant. what’s rellevantt is that the fact that I don’t think socialism is the best system ever doesn’t mean you guys can create alt accoutns just to harrras me.
Bro they literally sold each other to Europeans so he isn’t wrong…
Shure its not good that they where bought, but man… Its past, Europe doesn’t do that anymore (Noone alive is responsible for it) and Africans still sell each other to each other, slavery is very much alive there still.
No I’m not, that has just absolutely nothing to do with the fact that they where sold by Africans. I said that this is a different part of the story and definitely not good either.
I think the fact Europeans enslaved people have very much to do with the OP’s claim that replacing direct enslavement with debt peonage at a later date more than made up for not only the original enslavement but later colonialism.
Blaming an oppressed group for their own oppression is not a good look.
Wow, that’s a whole new level of racism than I’ve ever seen.
Say, who established those borders you claim are constantly at war?
Any chance those were arbitrary lines ignoring local history and cultures by the people OP thinks did nothing to owe reparations over?
I think he assume you read the comment he put in his comment when you where commenting. Which is pretty short and this is it:
"They paid the moral debt with interest when they forced Africa to stop enslaving their own people to sell them.
Anyone who doesn’t know this is unqualified to speak about it or is being dishonest."
I do get your point which was europe had stopped doing slavery themselves (tacitly given peasants, indentured servitude, wager slavery [which under globalism increased greatly]) but were fine buying them as a commodity and then just deciding they can commoditization the whole race given how different they looked (one reason natives were not enslaved on that scale). Thing with commoditization slavery is it really treated slaves like a commodity and was more brutal than the type of slavery taking place in africa and more seen in history. For anyone or anyone I am in no way condoing or endorsing slavery but it is a complicated historical subject but I would rather have been a slave in many cultures than the typical american colony one or a typical dark ages peasant.
@Zima@FfaerieOxide stop being so silly. why would you come onto the internets, publicly post stuff that’s apparently a little chaotic, and then not expect some backlash…?
and then you expect strangers to protect you from the free service they are paying for you to use…? why don’t you just get better with your words? or post in places that are more supportive of whatever opinions you’re promoting? or start your own instance?
Maybe your opinions just suck?
You did say colonialism was good for Africa, like an asshole.
So seven minutes after Zima posted about a mystery stalker dogging his every comment, you jumped in on the thread with a complaint about something he posted two weeks ago, which when you subsequently linked to it was clearly not saying what you’re accusing him of saying and makes you sound like some sort of vindictive crazy person?
What a coincidence!
Let’s see if a Fuckyoufacedeer account appears now.
Edit: Oh, another amazing coincidence: nine minutes after Fuckyouzima downvoted Zima’s two-week-old comment, you also downvoted his two-week-old comment. And then two minutes later you made your first comment in this thread. We can see who downvotes what and when, you know.
Are you good? A guy complained about brigading downvotes, I checked if maybe the person complaining was just an asshole (as sometimes it turns out when people complain folks are out to get them). They were.
I have never heard of Zima before this post, and I have better things to do than brigade vote people on fake accounts.
I never complained about you voting down my every comment. that’s fine if you do that i’ll do the same to you.
I complained about the alt account with \username. but I guess facts are irrelevant to trolls like you.
I never downvoted your every comment, I don’t even know who you are beyond the guy who downvoting my giving condolences to someone mourning their dead father, so thanks for that.
let me make it simpler for you. you mischaracterized the creation of an alt account to stalk somoene as “A guy complained about brigading downvotes” you should slow down and reconsider the facts.
I just wondered if maybe people had a legitimate reason to hate you and then learned you were a colonialism apologist.
I don’t condone “FuckZima”
Bernie Mac voice
…but I understand.
for the fifth time. people that want to be willfully ignorant of history and feel entitled to reparations might be angry at me and others that might have arguments against it but that doesnt mean they should be allowed to creat alt accounts dedicated to harrass me.
I get it; you’re racist. You don’t have to keep trying to get me to believe that; I am more than convinced.
Er… Are you suggesting that it’s okay to harass someone you disagree with? That’s pretty toxic, my guy.
Would you mind showing me where I said that?
I think you’ll see I explicitly didn’t condone the behavior OP accused “FuckZima” of and then proceeded to engage in themself.
By dismissing OPs concerns about harassment and suggesting OP is at fault because their opinions “suck”, you are suggesting that OP is at fault for having the wrong opinions, and thus deserving any harassment they receive.
Don’t you have a pirate ghost you can be worshiping right now?
I never said that. but thanks for letting us know your true feelings. I’m pretty sure the stalker was offended for the same reason as you are, I’m pretty sure of his real account as well but it’s irrelevant. what’s rellevantt is that the fact that I don’t think socialism is the best system ever doesn’t mean you guys can create alt accoutns just to harrras me.
Really, this isn’t you saying it’s African’s fault Europeans enslaved them?
Bro they literally sold each other to Europeans so he isn’t wrong…
Shure its not good that they where bought, but man… Its past, Europe doesn’t do that anymore (Noone alive is responsible for it) and Africans still sell each other to each other, slavery is very much alive there still.
(this is in no way pro slavery)
You seem to be side-stepping the whole “Europeans bought and bred humans” part.
No I’m not, that has just absolutely nothing to do with the fact that they where sold by Africans. I said that this is a different part of the story and definitely not good either.
I think the fact Europeans enslaved people have very much to do with the OP’s claim that replacing direct enslavement with debt peonage at a later date more than made up for not only the original enslavement but later colonialism.
Blaming an oppressed group for their own oppression is not a good look.
You keep trying to put shit into a comment that was never in it. Thats called framing and false facts.
Oh and paying African countries mostly funds terrorism and war lords, so not paying is more helpful.
Wow, that’s a whole new level of racism than I’ve ever seen.
Say, who established those borders you claim are constantly at war?
Any chance those were arbitrary lines ignoring local history and cultures by the people OP thinks did nothing to owe reparations over?
You keep trying to inverse/distort my claims. What is this fabrication about debt peonage? How does it relate to my actual statement?
I think he assume you read the comment he put in his comment when you where commenting. Which is pretty short and this is it:
"They paid the moral debt with interest when they forced Africa to stop enslaving their own people to sell them.
Anyone who doesn’t know this is unqualified to speak about it or is being dishonest."
I do get your point which was europe had stopped doing slavery themselves (tacitly given peasants, indentured servitude, wager slavery [which under globalism increased greatly]) but were fine buying them as a commodity and then just deciding they can commoditization the whole race given how different they looked (one reason natives were not enslaved on that scale). Thing with commoditization slavery is it really treated slaves like a commodity and was more brutal than the type of slavery taking place in africa and more seen in history. For anyone or anyone I am in no way condoing or endorsing slavery but it is a complicated historical subject but I would rather have been a slave in many cultures than the typical american colony one or a typical dark ages peasant.
Why don’t you quote what I said instead of your inversed/distorted version of it?
@Zima @FfaerieOxide regardless what you said or didn’t say, this is the fediverse. mute/block them and move on, it’s really all you can do.
if you’re accountable to what you say then what do you care if others try to distort it? the truth is out there.
yes. as long as it’s legimitate users. the moment they start creating fuckyou\ alt accounts just to harras I think they should be banned.
@Zima @FfaerieOxide also, exactly who would ban them on the fediverse
i don’t think you understand how silly you are.
kbin admins/global mods. that’s what I’m trying to find out from this post.
@Zima @FfaerieOxide stop being so silly. why would you come onto the internets, publicly post stuff that’s apparently a little chaotic, and then not expect some backlash…?
and then you expect strangers to protect you from the free service they are paying for you to use…? why don’t you just get better with your words? or post in places that are more supportive of whatever opinions you’re promoting? or start your own instance?
https://kbin.social/contact
i’m really getting a kick out of this.
@Zima @FfaerieOxide what exactly is your definition of a legitimate user
Is there a point to your question?