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    Law requiring all prices to be in a format of

    $ per actual measurement unit and include all applicable taxes.

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      Presidents can’t pass laws and the House Republican majority is basically dedicated to going against whatever Biden proposes.

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        Absolutely it’s very frustrating watching them try to do so much only to have it curtailed by a Republican majority Congress.

        People think the president can issue an executive order for anything they want. That being said I hope his cabinet does move on proposing this because it would be a huge win for pricing transparency.

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          Absolutely it’s very frustrating watching them try to do so much only to have it curtailed by a Republican majority Congress.

          It was more frustrating two years ago when it was being curtailed by a Democratic majority congress.

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            Yeah well Dems stopping tax cuts for the rich don’t hurt us as much as Reps trying to shut down the government because we refuse tax cuts for the rich but by all means “both sides”

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              Yeah well Dems stopping tax cuts for the rich don’t hurt us as much

              Who said anything about them stopping tax cuts for the rich? I was talking about stuff Democrats did 2 years ago, like stopping the minimum wage increase and BBB. You know, their accomplishments.

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                How in the world can you contribute that to the Dems when they were split and Republicans almost unanimously voted against it.

                If you’re issue is that they should have all voted to push it through then absolutely I wish they would too and you should vote in a way that reinforces what you’d like to see.

                That being said of our two options Dems support it the most. If your argument is that we should have more options to vote for what we really want then we agree again, we need voter reform to make 3rd options viable via multi-choice voting

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                  How in the world can you contribute that to the Dems when they were split and Republicans almost unanimously voted against it.

                  BBB never made it to the floor, thanks to the only Democrat whose voice matters, Joe Manchin.

                  If you’re issue is that they should have all voted to push it through then absolutely I wish they would too

                  My issue is that the party is useless on purpose. Your issue is that I don’t worship them for it.

                  I wish they would too and you should vote in a way that reinforces what you’d like to see.

                  There is no available way to vote that will ever reinforce what I’d like to see. Democrats oppose me less than Republicans do and that’s the best they’ll ever be willing to do.

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                    Based insane take divorced from reality.

                    What in my reply made it seem like I worship them, they’re the best we have and I long for better way but the only way we’re going to get better is voteing reform on many levels.

                    Voting in fascists out of spite does no good.

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            There never was a Democratic majority congress. West Virginia and Arizona both sent senators who had a D next to their name, but were really Rs.

            Not only that, but you need a super majority in the senate to get anything real through, which means you need 60+ Democrats who ALL need to be on board, along with a majority of Democrats in the House, AND a Democrat president.

            That hasn’t happened since early Obama, and he squandered it by trying to pass bipartisan legislation with the Republicans, instead of just railroading the right things through.

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              When was the last time Republicans held a majority like that and how is it that despite that majority, they still manage to pass all their vile legislation?

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              There never was a Democratic majority congress.

              50 plus a tiebreaker is a majority. You lied.

              West Virginia and Arizona both sent senators who had a D next to their name, but were really Rs.

              West Virginia and Arizona sent senators who represent party leadership to absolute perfection. They define the party.

              Not only that, but you need a super majority in the senate to get anything real through, which means you need 60+ Democrats who ALL need to be on board, along with a majority of Democrats in the House, AND a Democrat president.

              The filibuster can be done away with forever with a simple majority. Manchin’s party never will.

              That hasn’t happened since early Obama, and he squandered it by trying to pass bipartisan legislation with the Republicans

              He got the bailouts passed. Democrats could have destroyed the relic of Jim Crow that is the filibuster to pass the public option. But they didn’t wanna.

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        Presidents can’t pass laws

        Yeah, this thread is beyond frustrating. We need to prioritize teaching civics in high school because it could not be more obvious that a large number of people out there have no idea what they’re even talking about. It’s just ignorant rage.

        The top comment in this comment section is so ignorant it should embarrass everyone using Lemmy.

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          I love how this argument only comes out when it’s needed to defend Democratic inaction. Bring up Trump’s campaign and see how quickly that idea flips.

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        Right, but he could get the ball rolling by getting someone in congress he knows to start a bill for the idea.

        If Repub’s shoot it down, then he’s got more ammo in his ads

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      We have that in the Netherlands; it’s very helpful. You usually see a price per kilo or a price per liter. Makes it really easy to just look at product X, Y and Z and see which one is actually more expensive, without having to do math in your head. That really should be the law everywhere.

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        Yeah, and in the UK I noticed that tax is included on the listed price as well. So again, no surprises for people when they check out, and don’t need to do the math to account for the extra tax.

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          Same in the Netherlands. A shop legally must show a price that includes taxes. I’m always amazed that that’s not a thing in the US. Because you’re still forced to pay those taxes anyway, so why confuse things by not just showing the tax included price?

          Here, what you see is what you pay.

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      $ per actual measurement unit

      I’ve already seen this in essentially every supermarket ever, usually per ounce. Sure, you have to have some vague intuition about what that is relative to the product, but you can still make standardized comparisons across, say, different kinds of chips, very easily.

      It’d be nice to include taxes, I agree.

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        Including taxes doesn’t really matter for that measure.

        The bigger issue is that they’re unreliable. They’re often not updated if there’s a sale, for instance.