• Maple Engineer@lemmy.world
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    The Russian propagandist and christofascists are going all out with their effort to bleed votes away from the Democrats because they know the GOP can’t win in a free and fair election, aren’t they?

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      You are the meme, what is your opposition to a third party? Ask yourself, why do you think if people had a choice, that it would only negatively affect your choice.

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        Because there is no realistic chance for a 3rd party candidate to win in this election and the risk of Trump winning is far far too high and dangerous

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        Taking votes from Biden gives Trump the win, bottom line.

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        what is your opposition to a third party?

        They can’t win. Also none of them are serious candidates with requisite experience in governing.

        Ask yourself, why do you think if people had a choice, that it would only negatively affect your choice.

        Because we don’t have ranked choice voting, and instead have FPTP. So based on the electorate and the electoral system, no one except Biden or Trump will win. If you’d prefer Biden over Trump and you vote for a third party candidate, you’re essentially making it more likely Trump will win.

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          I personally can not stand either candidate, to the point I have trouble viewing either one as even human due to their long histories of harm. That people keep trying to stick to the status quo, even as things are going now is just ridiculous. Most Americans I have talked to feel similar. That a third party can’t win is something the two entrenching parties both try to delude us into supporting. Ross Perrot won almost 20% of the vote against Bush and Clinton who weren’t as bad candidates as Trump and Biden. This is literally a race to the bottom, and instead of stopping the car everyone is saying just keep going for your side til we all crash.

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            I personally can not stand either candidate, to the point I have trouble viewing either one as even human due to their long histories of harm.

            Then you’re not to be taken seriously.

            That people keep trying to stick to the status quo, even as things are going now is just ridiculous.

            No idea who is sticking to the status quo. But I’m not risking another Trump term for a 0% chance of a third party, and those candidates are terrible.

            That a third party can’t win is something the two entrenching parties both try to delude us into supporting. Ross Perrot won almost 20% of the vote against Bush and Clinton who weren’t as bad candidates as Trump and Biden.

            And got no electoral votes! Zero! It’s not the two parties telling you they can’t win, it’s reality.

            The middle of the election isn’t the time. Grass roots organize, change your reps, state reps, etc…you need to build the change not just snap your fingers to get change.

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                Those entrenched have everyone saying it is never the right time to get off their train, so when is the time?

                Did you even read my previous comment, or just respond? I literally said you need to organize at the grassroots, get state reps and senators, and Congress members. You need to build the change, not just snap your fingers. A third-party president would accomplish nothing.

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        The MAGA cultists will always vote for a christofascist theocratic dictatorship. They have spent decades pushing voter suppression, appointing corrupt, hyper-partisan cultists judges, and unconditional Gerrymandering to the point where they can almost not lose despite having minority support. Any vote that doesn’t go to stopping them risks handing the country to them and ending democracy in the US.

        Other than that, no reason.