From all the concern trolling I see in the other instances it’s clear that there’s no winning over these people. Everything is “Kremlin propaganda” to them. I do think a lot of chapos did go a little overboard with the PPB, but even thoughtful responses were met with the “hateful rhetoric” and “Kremlin talking points” BS. As always, it is to the Global South we must look to for any hope in the future…

  • Tankiedesantski [he/him]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    25
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    I’ve tried to talk to libs about China because I’m Chinese so maybe that’s why I have a different perspective.

    Its like everyone around you refusing to believe that the sky is blue because BBC told them that the sky is green. After a while you start to question even yourself.

    • Sandinband [any, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      17
      ·
      1 year ago

      Trying to convince white libs that insert Bad non white country isn’t cartoonishly evil and out to get them personally as a poc is like banging your head against a wall

      They see us as blinded by loyalty and discard our feelings because only us dirty coloreds can be influenced by propaganda

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      17
      ·
      1 year ago

      Someone here on Hexbear said something like liberals don’t believe in other countries as existing geopolitical entities with diverse populations and economies. They think of places like Russia and China as mischievous polytheistic gods with distinct character flaws and demonic powers to influence people’s minds. They think of Putin as some malignant devil in the clouds watching all discussion about him.

    • sicklemode [they/them]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      1 year ago

      Here, show libs videos from this channel: https://vid.puffyan.us/channel/UCzDE2LGSmJnw53WrZ7mM_Aw (Living in China).

      They’re much more likely to be receptive to Westerners who actually live in China, rather than native Chinese (racism, unfortunately, runs deep) on the grounds that 1.4 billion people are somehow spies and unanimously a monolith pulling the greatest conspiratorial ruse in world history whose level of planning and labor to pull it off reaches heights far beyond anything the liberals themselves could possibly conceive.

      A couple funny/good videos I like (since you mentioned BBC) are these two here: Western Media’s Baseless Xinjiang Claims 外媒的涉疆谎言 Xinjiang Cotton 🇨🇳 Unseen China, and The BBC has EXPOSED my CCP Funding…🇨🇳 BBC曝光我们被北京资助?Unseen China

      There’s so many videos of tangible, visual examples of Chinese infrastructure, and some compared to the US. These videos, more often than not, will shatter these people’s worldview and flip it over in real-time, softening their shields and making them more receptive to what you have to say.

      I encourage you to dig deep through the channel’s history, as there’s almost always a video I can find that’s relevant to whatever topic(s) the conversation has engaged with. Best of luck in the field.