I’m talking about this sort of thing. Like clearly I wouldn’t want someone to see that on my phone in the office or when I’m sat on a bus.

However there seems be a lot of these that aren’t filtered out by nsfw settings, when a similar picture of a woman would be, so it seems this is a deliberate feature I might not be understanding.

Discuss.

  • MajorHavoc@programming.dev
    1358·
    4 months ago

    As a huge Anime fan, with some catching up to do, I’ve blocked every anime adjacent community, because NSFW filtering isn’t applied as strictly as I would prefer, on the Anime communities here.

    I enjoy a good sexually charged image as much as the next person, perhaps more.

    But I scroll Lemmy in front of my impressionable daughter sometimes.

    I would like to catch up on Anime recommendations, here.

    But, to me, it’s just not worth the risk of suddenly needing to explain to my daughter why Faye Valentine’s parents didn’t love her enough to buy her full sets of clothing.

  • Qkall@lemmy.ml
    967·
    4 months ago

    Op, if my HR dept saw me scroll by that pic… It would be an annoying conversation. Like while I’ll agree, there’s no nudity… I would get in trouble. I’ve left some chatroom due to this… People just don’t understand that I don’t care but the folks cutting my checks will make a thing of it

  • RBWells@lemmy.world
    705·
    4 months ago

    I think if you wouldn’t use it as your wallpaper at work because it is inappropriate for work, that’s NSFW. So yeah at my job that would be NSFW.

  • glitchdx@lemmy.world
    55·
    4 months ago

    I am of the opinion that there should be more granularity to NSFW than a simple binary.

    I’m a fan of how e621 does things:

    rating:s (safe)

    rating:q (questionable)

    rating:e (explicit,)

    But I would add another:

    rating:t (traumatic, known elsewhere as Not Safe For Life)

    Call it “purity” and allow users to filter posts to allow or block any arbitrary combination of purity levels (wallhalla, formerly wallbase, does this if you want to see how it could work).

    • fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de
      81·
      4 months ago

      It would be great if everything could be classified in this way, but is it practically possible to apply a more complex system like this across instances, given that we struggle with the simpler NSFW tag?

      • Mistic@lemmy.world
        8·
        4 months ago

        The reason why people are struggling with one tag may also be exactly because it’s only one tag.

        It’s difficult to categorize gray as black or white, after all.

        Imo, the real issue is how not to go overboard, adding more and more tags, and keeping things easy to filter.

        • fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de
          1·
          4 months ago

          Perhaps. I’m not expert but I’m just not convinced you’d get good compliance across instances.

          After all, even minimal non- compliance makes the whole thing pointless

          • Mistic@lemmy.world
            4·
            4 months ago

            Can’t the same be said about what we have right now, though?

            No system is flawless, but you’d be surprised the lengths people will go to uphold the ones that work.

    • recapitated@lemmy.world
      6·
      4 months ago

      Moreover I don’t think these need to be on a single scale. Like, trauma isn’t “more” than pornographic, it’s just something completely different (ideally).

      There can be a scale of safe to unsafe for a variety of reasons, and people might be able to filter what they see more proactively based on their own tolerances (and interests).

      But then again complexity can be a deterrence. Tagging and cataloging can be a big content management problem and I think most want to do the simplest thing possible.

      But maybe content advisory could be a crowd sourced effort, using a up/down ranking on explicit categories just like we can do on posts.

  • peanuts4life@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    552·
    4 months ago

    I feel like the Internet needs more tags:

    • Explicit (rude language, nudity, etc)
    • Porn (nsfw legacy tag)
    • Violence
    • Not safe for life

    Something like that.

    • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz
      15·
      4 months ago

      These aren’t even enough.

      The tag for this particular problem would be something like “mildly suggestive” because it’s literally just skin that some people don’t want to see.

      • peanuts4life@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        111·
        4 months ago

        Yeah, I agree. I do sort of understand op’s consternation. I don’t browse Lemmy on my work PC, but sometimes on lunch or in public I pull it up on my phone on All communities and I’m suddenly conscious that everyone beside me can see the “sfw” furry and anime art that I scroll past.

        However, that’s kinda my fault. I don’t want to ban those communities because I like that stuff. It’s just a little odd that we call it sfw when, to be honest, I have a hard time picturing most work places where I live happy to see that on my desktop.

    • ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.worldEnglish
      13·
      4 months ago

      I wonder if Lemmy could easily do content warnings like on Mastodon. I don’t know if it’s part of the ActivityPub spec but it’s definitely a thing that’s been implemented elsewhere.

      • Aedis@lemmy.world
        10·
        4 months ago

        The answer to “is it part of the activityPub spec?” is more often than not a strong No.

      • peanuts4life@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        71·
        4 months ago

        Yeah, that would be great. Many instance admins already use CSAM classifier models on all incoming images. It’d be great if they could add additional models that could put meta tags on images automatically like “suggestive” and “gore” with the option for the poster to modify the tags just in case it was a false negative or positive. Like a lasagna getting gore, for example.

  • theherk@lemmy.world
    588·
    4 months ago

    Of course it should. NSFW doesn’t mean too hot to handle. It means, I don’t want coworkers or customers seeing this on my screen, as a matter of professionalism.

  • crossover@lemmy.world
    351·
    4 months ago

    I just want posts or communities to have category tags for me to block by tag. So I can block all anime and every non-English community.

    I have nothing against them. They’re just not of interest to me and I don’t want them on my feed. Blocking a community is mostly useless because there are so many of them it’s like playing whack a mole.

  • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
    323·
    4 months ago

    Which half?

    NSFW is not safe for work, so if it wouldn’t fly at work… it should be marked.

      • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
        141·
        4 months ago

        Clearly we have a different understanding, how do you apply Not Safe For Work?

        • Ephera@lemmy.ml
          123·
          4 months ago

          I’ve often seen NSFW used as basically just “contains nudity”. You could have a woman in skimpy clothing shaking her everything in a manner clearly trying to evoke sexual thoughts, but because her nipples and genitalia are technically covered, it would get posted as “SFW”.

          • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
            15·
            4 months ago

            Sure, so you want a nudity/sex tag instead of a NSFW tag.

            NSFW would be a superset of nudity.

          • Maalus@lemmy.world
            133·
            4 months ago

            Just because some people don’t know how to use NSFW doesn’t mean it means something else than “Not suited for work”. Anything that a colleague, boss etc could see that would result in awkwardness, “the talk”, is NSFW. Same thing for gore.

    • phoneymouse@lemmy.world
      198·
      4 months ago

      Agree, if I scroll past it and someone looking over my shoulder is going to call me a weirdo, it should be NSFW.

  • EnderMB@lemmy.world
    314·
    4 months ago

    Yes.

    The tag is Not Safe For Work. I’d say that if you were to look at this in most work places you’d probably be speaking to HR within the hour…

  • Toastypickle@lemmy.world
    256·
    4 months ago

    I wish there was strictly an amine tag so I could filter all that shit out like you can with nsfw. Blocked countless weirdass communities that randomly popup.

  • Shimitar@feddit.it
    224·
    4 months ago

    That would be perfectly acceptable where I live and work. No nudity, no tits, no genitals, move along…

    On the other hand, anime in general is relegated to teens more than not here, so any anime would raise eyebrows if seems browsing from my phone by others given I am definitely not a teen by large.

    YMMV, but different cultures different sensibility.

    Should Lemmy be a MCM or a MCD? I think this should be the question.