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No you don’t understand, utilitarian city planning is stupid. We follow american values like ‘cars’ and ‘redlining’
Sorry sweaty unless half of the footprint of your city is parking lots it’s 1849 authoritarianism
It’s really funny that a lot of (domestically) well-known American cities wouldn’t even scrape Tier 3 in China lol
Does America have any cities except New York that would be tier 1?
In theory, San Francisco. However it is literally inaccessible to anyone except the top .01% and anyone lucky enough to be a homeowner there before prop 13. Every city in the US that is even close to being worth a damn is like this and every day I pray to the great train in the sky that the Bay Area becomes Hong Kong 2.
San Francisco? Los Angeles, Chicago, Dallas, Atlanta, Miami, Philadelphia and Boston would all like a word. Los Angeles and Chicago in particular.
Population-wise some of those are too low compared to Chinese T1 cities. But there’s no official definition so…
Yeah I wouldn’t expect any of those except maybe LA to be considered tier 1, I said those ones because they’re all larger than San Francisco lol
San Francisco has a healthy and vibrant metro surrounding it though. There’s Oakland to the East and the entirety of Silicon Valley to the South (including San Jose).
Even including that it doesn’t break 8 million people
Boston isn’t even close to tier 1.
I agree but it’s closer than San Fransisco
In terms of population or infrastructure?
Chicago in particular.
puts down pizza hello!
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The entire island of oahu has been waiting for decades for the single train system to be built AND ITS STILL BEING DELAYED!
Its been billions of dollars invested.
On a more macro-level, look at the joke that is California’s high speed rail project. It probably won’t even be operational until 2030, and that’s assuming they don’t find yet another excuse to put off the project.
At the risk of being a total
, many places in America would be so goated if this country wasn’t so corrupt, incompetent, and proud of it. Imagine sitting in a passenger rail with a book and a nice cup of tea as you’re watching the Cascadian country side pass you, interrupted by a couple villages here and there.its not lib to wish for real infrastructure, ya aight
Houston is possibly one of the worst designed and least appealing cities on Earth. There are some moderately ok places, like the museum district is ok. The underground walkway areas downtown are kinda cool too.
Everything else is a complete mess of spaghetti roads, crumbling buildings, and an expectation that driving for 45 minutes on 70 mph highway is a normal commute to work. It’s absurd how much of the money flows directly into some oil company’s off-shore account rather than fixing literally anything.
Houston is like all the worst parts of Los Angeles but without any of the interesting things.
is that houston
Houston and Chongqing (but one of those photos looks ai generated lol)
Chongqing is only like 25 years old. Before that it was an industry zone in the Sichuan province. Lol
It is actually a crown jewel of china’s growth and focus on livability in their cities.
I didn’t make the meme, I thought Chongqing was a weird choice when there are older or lower tier cities which still make Houston look like absolute shit and are far lesser known. But I’m a simple poster, I see train, I post train
Can’t out drip Deng’s cities.
That’s not right. It gained municipality status 25 years ago but the city itself is ancient. It was famously the temporary Republican capital during the war against Japan.
Shenzhen’s the real young city.
Apparently Chongqing was first settled sometime around 316 BC so… yea just casually older than most European countries.
Tbf, many European countries have cities older than the country
Like Marseilles in France or name an Italian city (I like Taranto for an example)
this hits lolfuck houston
Death to America
Ban cars.
This is the exact feeling of when you click the “ban cars” law in half earth socialism
I kept losing that game. Like sorry people, but you will be vegan and you will ride the bike.
I broke it once and got literally trillions of political points, I was so close to completing the space projects. Once you get asteriod mining the game doesn’t know what to do lol. It really comes down to those CO2 extractors like holy shit you may have energy shortages but you’ll basically fix the environment. Besides that All nuclear/Air Turbine and solar power baby. Some renewable fuels may have bad effects, but its all right, your other achievements will outweigh it. Focus really hard on some projects in the beginning, I suggest rushing solar power improvements and battery enhancements. Also having the one that creates a automated economy is a godsend. As well as Stakhanovite Shock workers law, it makes people cranky but production is a must. It gets evened out by the automated economy anyway.
The research is really good in the animal liberationist (for the vegan shit), the accelerationist (some may complain but idc), and the Eco Feminists (they invite you to mushroom foraging they’re my favorite). Utopianists are there but they make people happy when you have them on your side. Fuck the consumerists, literally just completely ignore them. THEY WILL RIDE THE BUS AND BECOME VEGAN. Also just do everything the Fanonists want and don’t do anything they’d hate. Authoritarian is just libshit caricatures, and are almost impossible to get in game (also following the animal liberationists really pisses them off), but can be attained for free at the beginning if you start in tutorial mode (you will have to go through the full tutorial). They are useful if you want to do a coup and just literally throw out the happiness meter and disable parliament. This is only as a last resort because it disables the benefits from those factions and also just kinda mean. Environmentalists got your back every time besides the accelerationist
The game’s politics have several holes and doesn’t really address the national question at all and just assumes everyone went no borders immediately. It criticizes any space exploration outside
The Earth Liberation front is annoying, but benefits of accelerated tech far outshine their efforts. Ignore them. Making people happy is tricky because the annoying treat lovers throw a fit when any actual changes are made. You can ignore them if you keep development high, and save up those Happiness centric laws.
If you wanna have fun you can steal the wealth of the first world and even out development. Although the game says this is bad somehow but I do not care lol.
uh as you see I played this instead of working
What game is this?
https://play.half.earth/ here, as a trekkie, you’ll like this
I was very confused how you knew I was a Trekkie at first. Lol.
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Don’t mind me, just picking my cherries.
lol, as if all of amerika isnt this suburban sprawl hell. China has functioning megacities, get over it
I’ve never gone anywhere in the US that wasn’t a depressing traffic jam or vast nowhere. I’ve never been to China, but I know for a fact that they at least plan their cities instead of allowing them to become Houston.
please, point me to America’s functioning high speed railway system. I’ll wait
Death to landlords
mods can we PLEASE get a lemmy emoji
Find something good then suggest it on c/emojis
no I want to be babied
dude most of hawaii is like this, try looking outside the hotels for just a second and you’ll see a slow hell
Hurr hurr
Typical Hong Kong apartment
The same hong kong owned by western capitalist for 70 years right?
If it’s a problem caused by Western capitalism, why hasn’t China fixed it in the over 25 years?
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How are you a star trek fan and this stupid, do you just clap at the spaceships?
Many such cases
They doubled the average size of new apartments by outlawing the appalling tiny units that the British establishment encouraged and by engaging in actual planning concerning land use, another thing the British colonial era ignored.
Now it’s about 50-90 sqm for new apartments which is the same as other high density cities like Barcelona. New York for example is 50-70 sqm.
They estimate a further gain of 10-20% in floor area per person by 2030.
Thanks China!
Your dumb ass should start questioning your assumptions because they’re wrong.
hey comrade, since you seem knowledgeable on the topic, do you know if there are any plans to further develop the new territories? I was in HK and I saw how much empty space and large single homes were there and I was astonished with the lack of development, not sure if there’s a historical reason for that.
I’m not an expert at all but I know the plan is to keep most of HK as undeveloped woodland.
It’s one of the things that surprises visitors, despite being one of the most densely populated places on earth, 2/3rds of HK is a nature preserve and they plan to keep it that way.
Partly this is because nature is good and the city treasures the green spaces. Which is why you see those funny high rises with a square missing in the center, it’s not actually feng shui it’s because approval often requires that you don’t block the sun and views of the mountains.
But it’s also in part because the mountainous parts are not very suitable for building and they’re prone to mudslides so building up on them would be a bad idea.
It’s actually cheaper and easier to “reclaim” land from the sea which is where most new land comes from, but really it’s increasing density and building up that creates most new housing.
Until 1947 colonial Hong Kong had a rule stating that you could not live on the land overlooking Hong Kong unless you were an expat (rich colonial capitalists).
This caused all elevated land in Hong Kong to become high-value. Today it’s all unbelievably expensive land. And only owned by millionaires and billionaires.
The process for purchasing land in HK is also a tender process, the government announces land sales and then takes bids. Until 2018 all of these bids would go into a box and then the government selects the highest bid from the box. This upholds the “free market” philosophy of the region, which they’re not allowed to change until the end of the agreement made in 1997 with Britain. In 2018 they managed to adjust it so that there was transparency on the bid amounts, so that bidders now don’t go in blind and overbid in order to get the land, its intention is to stop massive price balloons caused by the black box that the process used to be but you and I both know it won’t really solve the issue. The issue is the bidding process in its entirety of course, nobody can develop land this expensive and sell/rent property on that land to recuperate the cost of the land purchase without the properties that are built being absurdly expensive themselves.
I recently saw a mini-documentary about the segmented apartments in Hong Kong, and how because now they’re banned, some of them have been made into mini-museums as a kind of walk-through PSA about the horrific conditions people were forced to live in only 20 years ago. As interesting as things like that and the Kowloon Walled City are from a historical point of view, I’m glad that the government turned it into a park and people have better living conditions now.
Having examples for people to see is essential for making sure people remember what they came from and why they shouldn’t want to go back to it. This is something I think communist countries need to get on more efficiently, museums of capitalism and its historical conditions. This is also very important to capitalism, with its museums to feudalism and (at least here in europe) heavy focus in education on feudal lives).
You’re absolutely right. The One Country Two Systems approach isn’t worth the paper it’s written on now that the Brits are flagrantly interfering with HK’s affairs.
The PRC should immediately integrate HK into Guangdong Province, arrest the real estate oligarchs and seize their assets.
The communism button got misplaced and ended up in a dubiously legal tech market smh my head
Because you don’t just throw people out of their homes without a viable alternative. Viable alternatives take time and resources to build, neither of which are infinite. As @Kaisen@hexbear.net has already explained, this is already being done.
why hasn’t China fixed it in the over 25 years?
Because when China under Deng took it back from Britain by basically telling them “fuck off or we’ll do it by force” and Thatcher agreed (knowing full well they could not fight to keep it and would have had very little support for that anyway other than the western shitholes which were more concerned about the USSR and other communist countries in europe than China at the time), one of the requirements of the deal that Britain made was to keep the current system with unchanged policies for 50 years. This was signed in the Joint Declaration.
This blueprint would be elaborated on in the Hong Kong Basic Law (the post-handover regional constitution) and the central government’s policies for the territory were to remain unchanged for a period of at least 50 years after 1997.
So if you want to complaint to the correct people responsible the way it is currently, complain to the British.
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autonomous capitalist Hong Kong
is this mainland Communist China?What part of One Country; Two Systems do you not understand? This is caused by Hong Kong being allowed to be 100% exploitative capitalism for the purposes of trade (and the agreement made with Britain) rather than socialism.
