• alunyanners 🏳️‍⚧️🇧🇩@lemmygrad.mlOP
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          6 days ago

          i meant like i wished that the letters matched with how they’d LOOK like they’d be pronounced. sorry, english language moment.

          i used to think that ä = a pronounced twice (so like “aa”). but TIL that apparently in swedish ä has a different pronunciation.

          • huf [he/him]@hexbear.net
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            english language “insticts” are a terrible place to start for most languages using latin letters. if you start from what the letters meant in latin and know a little bit of what the hell went on in the middle ages (or are at least vaguely familiar with the spelling of a few european languages), these arent that odd. okay, the å is, because that’s a uniquely nordic replacement for “aa”, the older spelling. and the pronunciation has shifted over the centuries to an o-like sound.

            but ä/ö are pretty standard forms for what used to be ‘ae’ and ‘oe’ (or æ and œ). they sound pretty similar to german or finnish (or a bunch of others) ä/ö, even when they’re not identical.

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      ö is pronounced “uhhhh”

      Are you sure? I’ve always struggled with how to explain the ö sound to English speakers

      I’d say it’s kind of sort of like the ir in “whirlwind” if you dropped the r sound but even that’s not too close

      For extra hard mode: try to teach English speakers the Finnish “u” and “y”