• Onno (VK6FLAB)@lemmy.radio
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    19 days ago

    You should check with the road authority because they might be fake.

    One day I was driving down a road that I’d driven down many times when I spotted a new speed limit. It was posted in a weird location and the speed was odd.

    I contacted the local main roads department and learnt that they didn’t know about these signs. The next day they were gone.

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      19 days ago

      Agreed, having a minimum speed sign on a stroad is just begging for pedestrian deaths. It would be such an obvious liability that nobody in charge of transportation would allow it.

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        19 days ago

        Every municipality has a minimum speed limit so you can’t just have someone driving 1km/h down the road creating a rolling blockade. Most are posted on the entrance into the municipality.

        There are reasons for both sides to have and not have specific laws.

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          19 days ago

          I’m a traffic engineer and I’ve literally never heard of such a thing (except on freeways).

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          19 days ago

          Every municipality has a minimum speed limit

          (X) Doubt

          Here (California) it’s “don’t be an obstruction to traffic”, so the speed you have to go at minimum depends on surrounding traffic and the situation and fluctuates, it’s my understanding that this is how most places do it so that it’s flexible

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            19 days ago

            And on certain roads they set a specific limit, other times its blanket low amount to make things easier, or as you said, a non specific law, so they can ticket you for essentially anything instead…

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          19 days ago

          Where are these municipalities?

          These are US signs and this isn’t a thing anywhere that I have traveled to across the US other than the 40 minimum on some interstates and highways.

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            Every municipality has some form of minimum speed law, do you want me to list every single one? You even provide an example of places they are used… and want to argue they don’t exist…? What?

            Can you provide an example of a place without any minimum speed laws?

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              In Kansas, every single street that isn’t a highway, and most highways don’t have minimums.

              Outside of Kansas I have never personally seen them posted on anything other than highways either.

              I have seen general traffic laws about not impeding traffic by going unreasonably slow, but no posted minimums.

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                19 days ago

                In Ohio it’s always 20 less than current max, they just teach you it in drivers ed rather than posting it

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                Maybe brush up on your traffic laws dude

                Kansas allows ANY municipality to set specific minimum road limits… look at that!

                Again, can you provide a municipality or even a state that doesn’t have a minimum speed law? I’ve even made it easier for you.

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                  19 days ago

                  Every municipality has a minimum speed limit

                  I don’t think that you understand how ‘slow speed as to impede’ IS NOT A LIMIT.

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                  I love that you linked the exact proof that you’re wrong, and still keep holding on. That is absolutely not a “Minimum Speed Limit.” I really don’t think you understand what “Speed Limit” actually means.

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            18 days ago

            I believe in Denmark the rule is just not to be a nuisance in traffic. I’m not sure a lower limit is that necessary.

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          18 days ago

          That sounds so reasonable. And yet I have never seen one in any country, state, or city I’ve been in.

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      19 days ago

      That can’t be common. And I’ve definitely seen minimum speed signs that persisted for years so I don’t find them suspicious at all

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      18 days ago

      Welcome to driving in America.

      Tbh I have no idea why so many people in this country tailgate. Do they not understand simple physics?

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        A relative of mine rear ended someone and couldn’t understand why they were at fault for the accident. Just kept saying the person in front of them just stopped out of nowhere and there was nothing they could do.

        People just don’t realize they’re supposed to give that much distance to the person in front of them. You’re supposed to be able to stop without hitting the person in front of you if they, for any reason, stop without warning.

        In my area the driving manual only discusses stopping/following distances for the commercial drivers license, not the standard drivers license

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      Based on the number of brake lights, either they’re stopped, or about to be inside that prii’s ass. Given the op didn’t mention a crash, I’m going to guess traffic is stopped.

      Still too close, but makes more sense.

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      18 days ago

      If you can’t walk down a sidewalk with cars going by at 30mph then there’s something wrong with you.

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        30 mph is almost 50 km/h. In most of Europe the default maximum speed limit inside of populated areas is 50 km/h.

        Default meaning artillery roads like this one can and almost always do have higher limits than 50, but the defsult maximum suddenly becoming the minimum makes no sense.

        A road that isn’t physically barricaded from foot trafic akin to a highway has no reason to have a minimum speed limit over 15 mph (30 km/h), if at all.

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          artillery roads

          Judging by the pot holes, that is?

          I know I know, making fun of autocorrect typos is such a vein form of humor.

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          18 days ago

          Yet another reason, I’m glad I don’t live in Europe. I like y’alls privacy laws, but besides that your entire lives revolve on wrapping yourselves in bubble wrap praying the government will save you from whatever.

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            Username checks out.

            A number of studies show that higher speed limits significantly increase the risk of accidents and fatalities for pedestrians, cyclists, and motorists. A National Transportation Safety Board report and separate study by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety both found that the risk of being seriously injured or killed in a crash rises sharply with speed. This isn’t about “bubble wrap,” but real-world safety.

            This is especially important in areas where cars and pedestrians share the same streets, such as large car-centric cities and poorly planned suburban neighborhoods. Driving in these environments poses a serious danger to pedestrians and cyclists, who often have limited protection. According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, urban areas see the highest rates of pedestrian fatalities due to reckless driving. These laws are not just about controlling traffic—they help reduce the risks created when drivers act carelessly in places where people walk, bike, and live.

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            18 days ago

            Actually we don’t wrap ourselves in bubble wrap, we use biodegradable air cushions. Which even Amazon switched to so they must work better.

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        30mph (48kmh) is the minimum, cars will also be going faster than that. Also, people need to cross the street, not just walk alongside it. Regardless, whether drivers or pedestrians are the issue, accidents happen. They are more likely to happen, and more likely to be fatal as vehicle speed increases.

        From the Institute for Road Safety Research, page 2:
        “According to an overview of recent studies (Rósen et al., 2011): at a collision speed of 20 km/h nearly all pedestrians survive a crash with a passenger car; about 90% survive at a collision speed of 40 km/h, at a collision speed of 80 km/h the number of survivors is less than 50%, and at a collision speed of 100 km/h only 10% of the pedestrians survive.”

        Areas with minimum speeds of 30mph in areas with pedestrians accept that at least 1 in 10 will die. This is easily reduced to negligible fatalities by having lower speed limits. Not doing so says we care more about saving some of the drivers’ time than the lives of pedestrians.

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    I know here in Brazil there’s a minimum speed limit on highways of 50% the max, but there are no signs, and it doesn’t apply in heavy traffic.

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      In Denmark we have a single piece of highway were we have a “crawl lane”. It’s slightly uphill and outside the lane you must go at least 80km/h. I know it is more common in Southern Europe.

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        Here in Germany, the Autobahn has a minimum speed cars need to be able to go (60 kph) although it’s not a minimum speed you necessarily need to drive.

        However, we do have a dedicated minimum speed sign, but it’s very rare and usually only used in very specific places. The only one I know is a long and windy bridge on the side of a small mountain where, depending on your lane, you need to go at least 60, 80 or 90, I think.

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    That has to be a misprint or a photoshop. There is zero chance of a minimum 30 mph (or kph) inside city limits, especially with a perpendicular entrance/exit right there.

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    I’ve seen signs like that on the bridge from Virginia to Maryland. It makes sense though, it can be very dangerous with a large speed differential on that particular bridge. It’s kind of a scary bridge. My ex-wife refused to drive on it.