• BarqsHasBite@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    Every time the Dems lose, they go to the center to find voters. Want them to stop going to the center? Then give them overwhelming and consistent victories.

    If you think you can change their platform by not voting or voting 3rd party, you’re dead wrong. They will just go to the center voter even more. This is not a Mexican standoff that you can win, because they have an out which is worth double (a center voter is both a vote for them and vote taken away from the other party).

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      If a centre vote is worth double, then it doesn’t make any difference if the left are mobilised to vote or not.

      With a mobilised left it’s left-vote=1 centre-vote=2

      With an apathetic left it’s left-vote=0 centre-vote=2

      Either way the centre vote is worth more so the party moves to the centre.

      But if this is wrong, and the left vote is indeed worth more, then why change policies to court the centre, why not have openly leftist policies to attract this game-changing leftist vote?

      You can’t have it both ways. You can’t claim that the democrats have to hide their leftist agenda to gain votes and also claim that the leftist voting block is the make or break of electoral success.

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      How are we supposed to change their platform? Because rewarding them with victories when all they do is go to the center hasn’t been working.

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      The reality is the majority of the USA is in the center. It’s why we usually don’t have run away elections.

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        I would argue that most Americans are apathetic and easily swayed by rhetoric calling reasonable progressive policies “extreme”. That’s not exactly the same as being in the center, although it does lead to pretty much the same outcomes.

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        8 hours ago

        This is the answer. Us weirdos on a weird social network made by literal communists are not the majority and should stop acting like we are.

        Every time I see a campaign ad for Harris I feel like I’m worthless to her because it’s all “yay America” and I know too much history to feel that way.

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          6 hours ago

          It’s bad that I want her to win… because she’s not trump and she’s not going to hand Ukraine over to putin…