• quicksand@lemm.ee
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    13 hours ago

    My wife is Indonesian Muslim, hates Kamala for what we’re doing in Palestine and told me not to vote for her. I’m still voting for Kamala but man that was a hard conversation I never would have expected. Seems like the military owns everything these days

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      11 hours ago

      Oof, that must be a weird conversation. Am Indonesian.

      Any conversation touching Islam adjacent lost any nuance with the general population more often than not . Not saying your wife is one, but let’s be honest the education quality here is abysmal and at the same time we’re number 1 muslim by population. Also our “Netizen” is notorious for wrongly attacking any issue they misunderstood.

      One of our top singer got berated nationwide because she wore a skirt with a random arabic text in it, people thought it was a Holy script and she’s Christian.

      I kid you not one election season I saw an angry mob with a banner that said USA = COMMUNIST !!

      Most have hard enough time just to get by day to day so I get it, they take anything to blame. With corruption top to bottom it’s a sad state all around. I’m grateful it’s still a relatively peaceful affair though, at least here in Java.

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      11 hours ago

      The hard part is, she gets to pick between genocide, and genocide with fewer rights for women.

      I don’t understand why she’d pick the latter, but anger does crazy things.

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        10 hours ago

        In defense Kamala is actively in power with Biden and has had many chances to voice and make change on this issue and she hasn’t. We know what we will get with Kamala, and it’s a lot like Biden all over again

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          8 hours ago

          We also know what we’d get with Trump. He’s pretty forward about wanting Israel to finish the genocide quicker.

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          9 hours ago

          Well, seeing a lot of the positives Biden has done, or tried to do but the repubs shut down purely out of spite, I’m still fully voting for Kamala.

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        11 hours ago

        It’s “I’m fucked” vs “I’m fucked and those that fucked me die too”.

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      13 hours ago

      It’s gonna get harder. Especially if you guys have kids.

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        11 hours ago

        They’re both the party of genocide. No matter what, your next president does genocide. Your vote helps decide which you get to protest under.

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          And you’d at least get to protest under Harris. Trump openly wants to go Tiananmen Square on you if you protest.

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          11 hours ago

          The rest of the world is looking at the US with contempt right now. Far-right germany, britains and the aussies are the only allies you have left. Fuck you.

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          11 hours ago

          But you won’t. Nobody’s accountable. Nobody was accountable for iraq. Nobody was accountable for lybia. Your country lies and lies and you’re too cowardy to face the criminals unless they are poor ghettos black people. They can create war out of lies and destroy countless lives, not only are they free but they get media attention to endorse whichever warcrimers gonna suck dicks next.

          You make me sick.

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            8 hours ago

            So you’re saying Americans should those up against the two party system. So, a revolution. Overthrow the system. Which means killing each other. And oddly, every violent revolution ever has ended up with a more authoritarian result.

            So your plan to reduce the killing in Palestine is… More killing in the US followed by a US regime that would help Israel finish the job faster?

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          11 hours ago

          Not a yank. Don’t care. Too late anyway the damage is done I hope you guys pays for the support for genocide.