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    And the main reason they’re not happy is that they got left behind by the evil fucks they keep voting for. It’s beyond maddening.

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    i appreciate that you held on to that native but optimistic assumption, Vivian.

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    They don’t like to read

    I argue that’s the issue right there.

    Reading only headlines will get you there quickly. But headlines are click bait and insufficient.

    I recall seeing a study on the demographics of who actually reads articles and MAGAs were among the most that did not read.

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    You’re not wrong.

    These are the same people onsite who never take responsibility.

    Also, they’re willing to listen to children. Literally saw one yesterday comment on Facebook repeating the “kamala,” nonsense.

    Seriously, they act like children… Their dictator is literally a child, and no body in high school even would act this way

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    I’m never happy and it didn’t turn me into a MAGA dipshit. I don’t think I’m even an asshole most of the time or at least I try not to be.

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      Maybe you should blame others more, especially foreigners, liberals, and education. Your problem is that you’re not blaming the right people.

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      I think the larger thing lacking is two-fold.

      1. Perspective. These people lack the ability to look at the world objectively and outside themselves to see the larger picture of where they fit in the world. They are unable or unwilling to comprehend anything remotely complex.

      2. Empathy. They are unable or unwilling to walk a step let alone a mile in anyone’s shoes but their own.

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        On 1, someone pointed out to me that a lot of people who are susceptible to MAGA are people who don’t know what it is to be an expert on something.

        They don’t have PhDs and MDs and JDs in their social or peer groups. They assume everyone’s knowledge of complex things is as superficial and uncertain as their own; literally they do not recognize the difference between things stated as fact versus things stated as opinion. Their day-to-day practice, as far as anything complex, is to let their emotions rule; practice makes perfect.

        The thing they exercise most is their amygdala, and that’s why conservatism causes an enlargement of the amygdala.

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          Compassion is a natural result of Empathy: those who feel as if their own a bit of other people’s emotions don’t want others to be unhappy if only because that makes them feel a bit unhappy themselves.

          This also applies to positive emotions, so those with higher Empathy are more likely to want others to feel good as that makes them feel good hence their notion of A Better World also includes what’s good for other people rather than purely what’s good for they themselves.

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    They’re all depressed. seriously we can again blame nixon for the drug war and the subsequent rise in depression in our culture. (hint: shrooms, go take them)

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        smile magic mushrooms are a treatment for depression that was widely available and frequently used. no prescription needed and SSRIs which were invented in the 90s are the closest analog we have available today because of nixon. the lack of mental health infrastructure is pointless if you’ve banned the only effective treatment for 40 years.

        but yes, also bad regan.

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      my mother who works at a high-class nursery full of milfs, calls them yummy mummies and I think that’s a good name

      \end tangent

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      I believe they’re referring to canvassing for a politician. So like, knocking on doors and asking people if they’re registered to vote/offering to register unregistered people, talking to people about who theyre going to vote for and why, that sort of thing.

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    The moment you understand that MAGA is the party of hate is the moment you understand this election. It explains both Islamic and Latino support for Republicans. They were betrayed by Democrats, and are willing to let the rest of us hang for it. I hope selling out for the center Republicans was worth destroying the demographic coalition.

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      My wife is Indonesian Muslim, hates Kamala for what we’re doing in Palestine and told me not to vote for her. I’m still voting for Kamala but man that was a hard conversation I never would have expected. Seems like the military owns everything these days

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        Oof, that must be a weird conversation. Am Indonesian.

        Any conversation touching Islam adjacent lost any nuance with the general population more often than not . Not saying your wife is one, but let’s be honest the education quality here is abysmal and at the same time we’re number 1 muslim by population. Also our “Netizen” is notorious for wrongly attacking any issue they misunderstood.

        One of our top singer got berated nationwide because she wore a skirt with a random arabic text in it, people thought it was a Holy script and she’s Christian.

        I kid you not one election season I saw an angry mob with a banner that said USA = COMMUNIST !!

        Most have hard enough time just to get by day to day so I get it, they take anything to blame. With corruption top to bottom it’s a sad state all around. I’m grateful it’s still a relatively peaceful affair though, at least here in Java.

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        The hard part is, she gets to pick between genocide, and genocide with fewer rights for women.

        I don’t understand why she’d pick the latter, but anger does crazy things.

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          In defense Kamala is actively in power with Biden and has had many chances to voice and make change on this issue and she hasn’t. We know what we will get with Kamala, and it’s a lot like Biden all over again

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            We also know what we’d get with Trump. He’s pretty forward about wanting Israel to finish the genocide quicker.

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            Well, seeing a lot of the positives Biden has done, or tried to do but the repubs shut down purely out of spite, I’m still fully voting for Kamala.

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          It’s “I’m fucked” vs “I’m fucked and those that fucked me die too”.

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        It’s gonna get harder. Especially if you guys have kids.

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          They’re both the party of genocide. No matter what, your next president does genocide. Your vote helps decide which you get to protest under.

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            And you’d at least get to protest under Harris. Trump openly wants to go Tiananmen Square on you if you protest.

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            The rest of the world is looking at the US with contempt right now. Far-right germany, britains and the aussies are the only allies you have left. Fuck you.

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            But you won’t. Nobody’s accountable. Nobody was accountable for iraq. Nobody was accountable for lybia. Your country lies and lies and you’re too cowardy to face the criminals unless they are poor ghettos black people. They can create war out of lies and destroy countless lives, not only are they free but they get media attention to endorse whichever warcrimers gonna suck dicks next.

            You make me sick.

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              So you’re saying Americans should those up against the two party system. So, a revolution. Overthrow the system. Which means killing each other. And oddly, every violent revolution ever has ended up with a more authoritarian result.

              So your plan to reduce the killing in Palestine is… More killing in the US followed by a US regime that would help Israel finish the job faster?

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            Not a yank. Don’t care. Too late anyway the damage is done I hope you guys pays for the support for genocide.

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      It’s the dixiecrats after we took the one thing they loved: Jim Crow and their ability to be superior to anyone who isn’t white.

      We even dared to elect a black person president over them, they will NEVER forgive us for that, it went against everything they believe in.

      You don’t understand, to them this is justice for our unimaginable crimes against them, we took the only thing they had in life.

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        And that’s how the orange turd built a cult…but constantly whining and complaining when Obama was elected. 8 years of slowly stroking the flames, birther crap, pointing out every single minor inconvenience and a failure of the president.

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          You don’t understand them.

          He was a MAN, he counted, well, when they didn’t call him a monkey.

          A woman can be dismissed, anything she does will be considered impotent and meaningless, it doesn’t matter.

          The south has its own logic, you can’t understand without going back 200 years in time.

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        Yes that explains the South and the Aryan Nations in the NW. They were a given in this scenario. I have plenty of experience and a little too much understanding of both.

        Party of Hate. For them it’s racial, religious, and cultural.

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    I thought this was always obvious. His whole appeal was ‘he says it like it is’ and ‘he’s brave enough to say what we’re all thinking’.

    That’s why scandals didn’t affect him, he never pretended to be virtuous like most of the other Republicans do.

    A third of people in any society have authoritarian tendencies and will vote for the strong man ‘that will set everything straight’, and it’s always a failure of mainstream politicians that allows these people to get into power (either by not motivating the other 70% to vote for their project, being too divided, or by going into a coalition with that party).

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      Details are confusing. These people like “I’ll fix all your problems” with no actual substance, and then when their problems are not solved, they like hearing “it’s the Jews Immigrants fault”.

      Solutions are not even desired by these people, just a scapegoat for all their woes.

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        Yeah, it’s not about solutions. It’s about punishing the ‘other’. Deflecting from the actual source of everyone’s economical backsliding (the billionaires skimming money off every part of economic activity).

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      He really is an accurate representative for his base: the worst scum sucking garbage alive.

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    The aversion to reading is always a red flag for me. Reading is a pillar of human intelligence.

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      For me it depends, reading books is hard for me because it feels like a chore that never ends. Even if it is a thrilling story, it’s just hard for me to focus for long enough to make any progress. Might be ADHD idk. But at least I keep reading news articles and other things that are relevant, because obviously I want to stay informed about what’s happening in the world, especially when elections are around the corner.

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      I don’t find reading books appealing. But I do look up things I am curious about and read few news articles I come across. Reading a book isn’t the only way to gain knowledge but if they aren’t reading/learning about anything then that’s a problem.

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    they are selfish.

    That’s where all of those symptoms stem from.

    selfish greed.

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      Lots of them are, but it’s stupid comments like this which make me shake my head. The left will lose 2024 with their fake moral superiority and fail to understand what happened.

      Again.

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        get your maga out of here.

        *The left will lose 2024 with their fake moral superiority…"

        it is not a fake moral superiority, the left has a practical moral superiority demonstrated by material policy that positively affects the lives of people.

        The left beat you in 2020 because of their tangible moral superiority by providing civil protections and material assets for the rights of the electorate.

        conservatives are legally trying and succeeding in stealing the rights, liberties and property of Americans.

        Americans don’t like that, and voted to the left.

        they’re fighting back by prosecuting and removing the selfish conservatives who are harming people, and are creating laws and funds protecting everyone,

        civil rights are not a “fake” moral superiority, they are a tangible moral superiority effected through practical, respectful policy.

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          The smug feeling of moral superiority and the continuous willingness to correct the other’s behaviour is THE reason why people can’t stand “left/wokism/whatever”. Continously pointing out on fake “offensive words” just to show off how morally superior they are.

          That how it looks from outside.

          (For context i am not American and don’t guve a fuck about orange man neither for so called “christian values” so don’t try to paint me as a conservative MAGA supporter.)

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            So you think that being an asshole and holding the country hostage is a reasonable response to being scolded? Like a literal fucking toddler?

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            “moral superiority and the continuous willingness to correct the other’s behaviour”

            it is tangible practical moral superiority coming from the protection and support of civil rights and liberty.

            rather than taking away employee rights, the left is giving employees rights.

            rather than taking away minority rights, the left is legally protecting minority rights.

            those are not imaginary feelings, those are practical and effective policies.

            "The smug feeling of moral superiority and the continuous willingness to correct the other’s behaviour is THE reason why people can’t stand “left/wokism/whatever”. Continously pointing out on fake “offensive words” just to show off how morally superior they are. "

            this is largely your imagination and pointed conservative media and a poor excuse for selfish people to continue abusing vulnerable people for their own gain.

            offensive words are not fake, and there’s nothing wrong with being considerate toward everyone.

            the fact that you don’t understand haven’t considered the difference between protected civil liberties and imaginary fake word hunts from the left (that are actually perpetrated by conservatives banning books from libraries) demonstrates exactly how successful the conservative media you consume is.

            consider what you’re saying, consider the information around you.

            anybody accusing the left of instigating moral panics while the right is literally banning books in libraries over words that they don’t like or understand clearly doesn’t have even the most tenuous comprehension of what is really happening.

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              rather than taking away employee rights, the left is giving employees rights.

              Good, that’s not what I am talking about

              rather than taking away minority rights, the left is legally protecting minority rights.

              Good, that’s not what i am talking about neither

              . those are practical and effective policies.

              Cool I agree!

              this is largely your imagination and pointed conservative media and a poor excuse for selfish people to continue abusing vulnerable people for their own gain.

              Oh wait, so telling someone “your fears/points you makes, it’s just your imagination” is a valid argument now? lol

              the fact that you don’t understand haven’t considered the difference between protected civil liberties and imaginary fake word hunts … the conservative media you consume is.

              Well you didn’t even bother to check if we are talking about the same points. Good on you I guess. You also somehow deduced I consume conservative medias, that’s some skill!

              consider what you’re saying, consider the information around you.

              Consider what you are saying, consider the information about you.

              … right is literally banning books in libraries over words…

              Banning books is dumb, I don’t know what makes you say I d support it. It never occured to me to ban a book, and I am not planning or supporting anyone who does.

              Again 95% of your comment is completely beside the point, because you somehow assumed my view points without ever considering I actually have similar views, I just don’t subscribe to every other random bullshit “the left” (whatever that means, because I don’t consider myself “right” neither) does.

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                nobody’s throwing you in jail for being the public bigot you aspire to. use all the slurs you want.

                people are, however, murdering trans people and banning books. in the real world.

                have fun cradling your make believies.

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    I am so, so glad Democrats have finally woken up to the fact that Republicans are not just misinformed Democrats. There’s no amount of facts we can throw at them to make them stop being terrible people. They’re not going to suddenly go “oh my God, I was wrong!” This is who they are.

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      My take is that with Harris courting endorsements from many formerly rank-and-file Republicans, this drives the point home. If anybody is still confused that Trump’s party is VERY different from what the Republican Party used to be, the Cheney’s endorsing her should settle that. Anybody still unconvinced is wilfully ignorant at minimum.

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        If anybody is still confused that Trump’s party is VERY different from what the Republican Party used to be, the Cheney’s endorsing her should settle that.

        And then you have the braindead .MLs who argue that awful people supporting the normal candidate over the fascist means we really need to rethink our support for the normal candidate 🙄

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      They’re dixiecrats, they used to be the worst part of the democrats before LBJ dared to sign civil rights, an unforgivable sin.