• forkDestroyer@infosec.pub
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              5 months ago

              That’s not really specific.

              For instance: we’re all part of a species that’s slowly destroying the ecosystem. But are we just buying extra pencils (example for something essentially inconsequential) or are we running the put-microplastics-in-the-water-supply machine (example for something that’s purposefully running the environment)?

              Or in the case of the military industrial complex: how guilty is someone if they pay taxes that go towards it, compared if they signed up for engineering work, or signed up because they wanted direct combat experience?

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    6 months ago

    Ok?

    Youngest girl killed day 1 by U.S. was as young as the other 150

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      I get what you’re saying but posts like these are crucial to waking up Americans. Shove the death of white people in their faces and they actually recoil sometimes.

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        It’s true and terrible. It ways rubbed me the wrong way that whenever there was a natural disaster or terror attack overseas, the news would always make sure to mention the deaths of American tourists. There’s ads for new Jeeps that mention that you’ll be able to SAVE OTHER AMERICANS with it. Annoying as hell.

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      I don’t know a ton about scouts, but they’ve always felt like literal military preparation cults to me.

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          But the roots of scouting come from the military. Lord Baden-Powell called them scouts at they were literally using training for military scouts as a basis for their organization. It is definitely different but it is based from a military mindset

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      5 months ago

      When I was called to serve in Bush II’s wars, I refused. It should be a way easier decision this time.

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    How do people not understand that they’re volunteering to be used as cannon fodder? The more exceptional a person is, the less it makes sense.

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      5 months ago

      It a lot of ways the military is a means to escape poverty, of course you run the risk of dying to have the chance at some fleeting semblance of middle class life.

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      “What a sucker, heh. I mean, people are saying that he kinda didn’t really help out much. We’re probably stronger, militarily, now that this dead weight isn’t bogging down the rest of the brave troops who aren’t dead yet.”

      -Trump, probably.

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    Guys, chill for a second.

    He was a kid who enlisted in the Reserve before Trump was even in power, and deployed to Kuwait with a logistics unit without knowing wtf was going to happen.

    Instead of being mad at the dead pawns, be mad at the people in power who started this shit. Be mad at the officers at the highest levels who didn’t push back against Trump’s orders to attack Iran without just reason. I think they deserve hate more than anyone.

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      If you choose to join the military regardless of when you chose to join it. You still chose to join the military.

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        Sure. That makes them legitimate targets in a war, and you don’t have to be sad that they died. Yes, I understand Iran attacking back was legitimate because every country as a right to defend itself.

        But people talk like this guy was the evilist dude in the world and wanted to bomb a school or something.

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        Really nothing Trump is doing is new to the US. He just gave up any pretense of it being for good or to help anyone. Also he’s even more inept at implementing anything so the outcome is worse even quicker than in the past.

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      Did he think he would be delivering tickles? Because if he did, the military seems like an odd choice.

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        Tbf the national guard recruits with videos of putting up sand bags during floods and digging through rubble after earthquakes and tornadoes looking for survivors. They tell them they’re there to help the state in emergencies and the army reserves is who goes to fight to fill in gaps. I spent my 4 years in the army helping to train new recruits. Basically I did nothing in the regular army. Then I spent 2 years in the national guard and got deployed. During my year in Baghdad I saw regular army, navy, marines and national guard, as well as soldiers from too many other countries to count. What I never knowingly encountered? An army reservist.

        Ok, so I’m not saying this kid was good or bad, there’s no way to know his intentions. I’m just saying it’s certainly possible he was just a naive kid who wanted to help but didn’t do his homework. He should have known plenty of Iowa vets that could have told him. At one point Iowa national guard had over 140% deployment rate. Meaning that many had gone multiple times, which is fucking bullshit. The national guards recruiting is far more sinister and predatory than the army. Because with the army you likely know you’re getting your ticket stamped at some point. These kids often just haven’t done their due diligence.

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          It seems that Americans, who spend all their time online, are completely unable to ascertain that the US military complex exists primarily for killing people outside of America. Before the internet, I could excuse young people falling for the propaganda. It was possible that they didn’t have access to information. Now you have to want to fall for the propaganda and purposely ignore all evidence to the contrary to believe joining up isn’t a ticket to eventually be called on to kill someone outside of the US and possibly be used as cannon fodder yourself.

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            Again, I’d say naivety and well… Sheer stupidity aren’t out of the question here. There’s been decades of propaganda and eroding education here. I’m not quite willing to call this kid willfully evil yet.

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    Don’t worry, pretty soon we will be past the point where we can individually profile the people that died for Trump.