This is the most complex one I’ve done so far, and I almost ran out of material (single straightened coathanger), so ~8 letters max. Coathanger is surprisingly difficult to bend into such intricate shapes. It took me around 2½ hours to do with two different types of pliers plus hand bending.

I literally freehanded this though, no predrawn pattern or anything, just following as close as I can to my own freehand cursive writing. I’m thinking about making a bit of a side job out of it, like $5 a letter…

What you folks think?

Edit: I made a point to weight balance it at the tip of the T for hanging on the wall or wherever.

Edit 2: Criticize me as necessary, my cursive is still slightly rusty…

https://www.superteacherworksheets.com/cursive.html

    • over_clox@lemmy.worldOP
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      Shit’s hard to bend at the scale to cram 8 letters in, but I hear ya. I do have smaller wire bending tools than what I used for this, but the toughness of the coathanger would probably break my smaller tools almost instantly… 🤷

      Like I said, this indeed is a bit of a practice session, that’s the tightest I’ve been able to bend letters in a single coathanger. 6 letters or less is easier to define, but by 8 letters, I was more worried about running out of material, which I almost did…

      Practice practice practice…

      My mom wants one sometime soon too, but her name is only 6 letters…

      I dunno, playing it by ear right now, but yeah I might need to look into other sorts of pliers or tools to better define the curvature of the R…

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          Thank you for that. Cursive writing is becoming a lost art, plus it’s difficult to bend by hand tools in metal.

          I did my best, I’m practicing, and I’m open to constructive criticism…

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            I could clearly read the ‘r’. I don’t think your cursive needs much improvement :)

            That being said, I think your earlier comment was downvoted for being a bit too aggressive. You get to choose which advice or criticism you take, but it’s graceful to keep it cool.

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        You might want to look up a “wire bending jig”. They’re not very expensive.

        Some come with some predefined shapes, like a semicircle, triangle, and some grooves:

        Others just have a bunch of holes and you can insert pegs and different size bobbins to make your own custom shapes:

        You can also consider whether something like a wirebending mandrel would be useful to you:

        Or even a swaging block:

        Pliers are good, especially if you have a few different kinds (you can do a lot with just a pair of chain nose and a pair of round nose, but there are also fancier ones like wirewrapping pliers and “half round/concave pliers”). But for getting precise shapes, it’s nice to have a jig of some sort.

        Oh, and if you don’t already use smooth-jaw pliers, I would definitely recommend switching to smooth-jawed.

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          Now that’s definitely a useful set of tools advice! 👍

          Yeah, I do have some decent high school education in Metal Trades, but even with that said, we didn’t exactly have these sort of specialty tools to work with.

          I am familiar with some of these tools though, but this is a nice menu of tools, some of which I haven’t seen before (but are fairly obvious how to use).

          For right now, I’m somewhere between piddle practicing my skills with what I have, and seeing if anyone really wants to pay for my skills and time. If I start properly earning money from it, I’ll start upgrading my tools a bit…

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      If it was a w, it wouldn’t drop to the bottom and then go into the t. It would just directly go to the right and start the t. At least how most people write cursive.

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        Everyone that knows cursive writing knows it in their own way, but I get you that sometimes some people’s writing kinda ‘blurs’ together like that…

        If I may ask, constructive criticism, could you show me examples of where I could try to improve?

        Bending stiff metal like this isn’t exactly easy ya know…

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          I agree that it’s readable as Courtney. I don’t think this would necessarily be easy, but you could try pinching the left side of the R like this:

          a cursive r

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            Now this is productive advice!

            This isn’t a detail I was taught in cursive writing, but I’ll definitely keep that in mind for the next round… 👍

            Do you have any particular advice links for any particular ‘standard’ on cursive writing?

            I really am practicing here, I learned wire bending before I learned cursive, so any and all criticism and advice is welcome…

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              I learned well over 30 years ago, but after looking through a few sets this site matches the lettering I was taught.

              Mind you, I don’t think many people will recognize that Q for what it is anymore, my name includes a capital Q and I always write it in block and start the cursive from the squiggle. (I was taught the Q as it is in that practice set though)

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                That practice sheet shows the confusion pretty well too, a U and W are identical except the swoop on the W that looks exactly like a R after a U.

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                  True, although you’d start the t from the edge of the vertical line of the w rather than the ground line. I actually couldn’t see the confusion until you pointed this out

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                    I’ve got messy writing, I was taught to drop the R at a slant and come back with loop before starting the next letter.

                    It’s also wire, so some allowances for material ductileness. Context makes what it should be obvious,

                    Just like Cowtown could be confused as courtown, but ones more likely than the other. Cowtney is just poking fun though.

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                I think that’s the basic practice set I learned from as well, yeah Q is fucking weird, looks like a fancy 2…

                Thanks for sharing that link, I just added that link to my original post. 👍

                It really is becoming a lost art, let’s try to not let that happen…

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                  Fwiw I know a lot of my personal cursive quirks I have picked up from online script fonts. You could try looking through sites like 1001fonts, filtering by script font, and seeing if you notice any details that make letters unique that also seem doable with wire.

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                    All I’m really looking for is details like how to better distinguish letters, such as the R as many have mentioned, and the T, which finally someone mentioned!

                    The lowercase R is difficult to get the distinguishing curl and curve on.

                    The lowercase T is like the most difficult, as however I fold it, I can’t exactly come back over to cross it later, so the cross has to come along with the fold…

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          I meant that I think how you did it is correct. If it was a ‘w’ it would be a direct line to the ‘t’. It wouldn’t go to the right, then have a 90 degree turn down. So I don’t think it makes much sense to read it as a ‘w’.

          Cursive is never going to have letters quite as distinct as printed text simply based on all letters being connected. So people can always interpret it differently than intended, but I think what you wrote is legible and easy to read.

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          It was constructive, whether you liked it or not. A person conveyed that the word can be read differently. It is absolutely your choice to do or not to do anything about it, but you just got protective and started saying that the person who criticized you has to learn or show you something.
          Nice work, but I kind of don’t like you already, so that affects how I see it.

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            It’s been a long time since I’ve written cursive, so I asked constructive criticism, not for an asshole.

            I learned cursive in second grade, like 8 years old, and it drifted from there into my own form of cursive writing. So sorry if I don’t remember every exact way to curve an R or a T.

            You don’t have to be an asshole about it, I’d MUCH rather an A/B comparison, graphically, how I might have better drawn it…?

            Bending metal by hand tools isn’t exactly easy, but if you got a better pattern to follow, then I’m all open eyes…

            I ask graphical constructive criticism rather than asshole attitude, please.

            Just trying to get back into art.

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                I have actually considered similar tools, but I’d probably make the tools myself from scrap wood and screws.

                I prefer the true craftsman style though, I don’t want anymore tools than I need for handcrafted works of art.

                Let the imperfections be, so what? At least my works are made with love and care…

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          I hope this is constructive, it may also help to rotate/tilt the r ~10 degrees clockwise to give it a little extra space from the u, as well as make the shape more distinct.

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            Thank you, and yes this indeed is constructive advice 👍

            I’m still warming back up and practicing a few names basically for free, for good friends only right now. My next freebie is gonna be for my mom, plus I probably ought to do my own name as well…

            There is one other complication though, that I at least try to fit in. Weight balance for a single balanced point to pin/hang it level.

            Not all names lend themselves to a good weight balance point, but Courtney happened to come really close with the T in the middle like that, but I never know exactly where the balance point might be until I’m done.

            In Courtney’s name, I planned for the top of the T to be the hanging point, but once I was done bending/folding the name, the left side of the T was a bit heavy, so I fudged the kerning a bit, compressed the left side in some and stretched the right side out a bit, until it balanced out level. Hence the seemingly stretched out N, cuz it is, but it made it balance about the tip of the T…