Abdul got 15899 votes in Dearborn in this primary election.
Kamala Harris got 15189 votes in Dearborn during the general presidential election.
I think that is a meaningful statistic.
Hard to tell much of anything considering this is a primary vs a full blow presidential election but who knows.
That’s entirely the point. Primaries, especially in non-presidential election years, are notorious for extremely low voter turnout.
The candidate in this senate primary pulled more votes than the nominee in a presidential general election.
That simply shows that this was a hotly contested primary that drew out voters in Deerborn, okay no real argument from here, I agree but what else are you trying to point out with this isolated statistic?
I mean okay, 2024 primary had a 24 percent turn out rate and the general had a 75 percent turnout rate while this 2026 primary had a 27 percent turn out rate overall.
All of this doesn’t tell me much outside of the this we’ve both said other than maybe we’d expect a mild uptick in voter turnout in the general.
abdul’s 27% turnout got more votes than kamala’s 75% turnout, which is notable. both directions, too. the other thing i’d draw from this is that harris was not a good candidate and that el-sayed is.
just first glance impressions though, i’d want to dig into the data before making any authoritative claims
what else are you trying to point out with this isolated statistic?
People are slowly, but finally waking up.
Abdul for president?
Well, Kamala was a woman…
And the traditional rural women predominantly vote the same as the patriarch.
Yes, and she was also a Zionist who wouldn’t even talk to the people whose friends and family she promised to keep murdering. I think that was the real killer there.
It wasn’t a blowout if you forget to look at how much money AIPAC spent.
$70 million, if I remember correctly
I believe they spent $35 million on Haley Stevens, and her campaign spend $70 million total
And it’s a primary.
Citizens United was a mistake. At this rate, 2026 might have more money put into it than general elections 1-2 decades prior.
Makes sense. General elections don’t matter to the donor class because, to them, an establishment neoliberal dem is only slightly more agreeable than a child raping demonic republican; but they simply will not tolerate a left-winger. Lovely bunch of humans we have running the show.
Michigan Dems will vote blue no matter who, we had a primary we know outlr canidates and now we unite going forward.
One can only hope; centrists tend to be pretty flaky.
Exactly. Centrist may choose not to vote.
As are progressives
No? Statistically progressives tend to vote blue no matter who more than centrists by a fair margin.
I’m interested in the source for that, the fact that we don’t have president Harris speaks against that.
it wasn’t progressives who stayed home dolt
So we have president Harris and not Trump?
FYI, Pew Research found that only 85% of Biden voters showed up in 2024. If all eligible voters had shown up, though, Harris would have lost with 45%.
Where’s your source that progressives stayed home more than centrists? You demand sources from others but provide none of your own.
I didn’t quote anything specific other then my feels and obervations, if you tell me a source supports an alternate/correct assessment Im all ears/eyes.
No. You’re telling people their anecdotes aren’t good enough, but you’re here arguing your gut feelings are enough. The problem is you’re a hypocrite demanding a higher level of proof than you yourself are willing to provide.
the fact that we don’t have president Harris speaks against that.
uhhh… how? Like, it only “speaks” to the fact that Trump got more votes. It says nothing about the political demographics of the voters.
i hate feeling conspiratorial talking about this, but there’s been signs of electoral fraud (different from voter fraud (which is generally just one person). it happens at the other end of the system and is much worse) in that win. i have not had the time to delve deeply into it, but shit got a certain stink
There was definite overt fraud with Elon (doing what was “apparently legally distinct” from) paying people to vote for Trump. And this time around they are overtly using their powers to rig the rules in their favor.
So if and when it comes out that less overt but far more nefarious electoral fraud occurred, I wont be too surprised.
And honestly, the magats (intentionally or not) played a brilliant hand by making sure claims of election fraud had become synonymous with insane conspiracy theorists in the 2020 election.
But I agree, it stinks bad.
There is definitely stuff (relatively) silently going through the courts about it. But we really won’t be able to do much about it until a new administration gets in.
It’ll be good reflection one day, but it doesn’t change much in the present.
Take the evidence to court. Otherwise, rumors and feelings of elections being rigged only help amplify the asshole’s Big Lie that it’s rigged.
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/17/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-242819
Sanders appeared to be referring to a YouGov survey that found that 24 percent of those who voted for Clinton during the 2008 primary backed McCain over Democratic nominee Obama in the general election.
Fully 12 percent of people who voted for Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., in the 2016 Democratic presidential primaries voted for President Trump in the general election. That is according to the data from the Cooperative Congressional Election Study
So I’m tracking HRC said Bernie (the progressive) didn’t bring his supporters around in '16 like she did for Obama in '08.
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It doesn’t surprise me they didn’t fall in line I didn’t at that time either.
I’m being argumentative here for a couple reasons, I just don’t think MI dems can push him over the line since he’s not doing all that well in the places he needs to do well like metro Detroit, so he needs places like Kalamazoo and Grand Rapids. Both of those cities will go his way but the counties those cities reside in might not which is a problem.
Second I enjoy trolling onlime progressives for their holier than thou because they seem to think that the party needs to adopt all of their views even if a generic democrat vote with the party a vast majority of the time.
We can argue that the votes they don’t follow party line are the important votes, my argument is they did nothing to try to earn that vote just expected it to happen.
In the end the party is endorsing his run so it seems there’s not too much to complain about.
I enjoy trolling onlime progressives
first off, on lime?
second, fuck right off. you’re nothing but disingenuous snark and attacking the very people who overwhelmingly come out every time. the problem is NOT progressives.
I enjoy mocking on lime chuds like you.
The anointed one gleefully embracing the most lethal neo-conservative partnership in the world, that Harris?
You speak of facts, but conveniently leave out the fact that Trump walloped her so badly he won by a wider margin than there were self-identified protest vote progressives to begin with. It literally made no difference how they voted.
I hope she runs again in ‘28 and has to face an actual primary vote where she will once again receive single digit support. Who knows, maybe if she moves even further right she can pick up some more maga voters and break into the double digits lmao.
The question is would she have been wolloped if the party was united behind her?
That question doesn’t make sense. You might as well be asking why Democrats didn’t rally behind Nikki Haley. Still, my answer remains the same:
It’s wrong to blame the voters for a garbage candidate. Please stop doing that, and demand better of our “representatives” instead.
lol get fucked. progressives show up while people like you stay home whining about progressives.
They don’t and thats the point
You demanded other people here cite a source, now it’s your fucking turn. Cite or GTFO.
Please show me.where I’ve sited a specific source
Get some fucking reading comprehension. What part of “cite or GTFO” did you not understand?
so the DSA managed to get one out of pure luck because McMorrow didn’t pull out quick enough
this guy seems ok though, hope he doesn’t fuck it up and go full commie
We gotta have a serious conversation about these massive dipshits who came out in droves to surrender to Israel, when the alternative was literally free healthcare and a social safety net.
It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.
Now if they aren’t even AIPAC funded… well that’s just sad. Even a reddit mod gets a delusion of power when on a trip.
Yeah, blue no matter who right you bunch of worthless, hypocritical assholes?
I’m stuck having to vote for Katie Hobbs who’s supposedly running with a god damn Republican so you assholes better man the fuck up too.
I mean some of us who said that actually meant it. Despite all of the wailing, tactical voting remains the correct way to participate in first past the post elections, even for leftists.
Yeah, it makes for a simple effective slogan. Unfortunately the neoliberals specifically are the big flaw in it. As they openly won’t. There needs to be a simple catchy way to convey voting against Republicans in the most effective way possible. Which often but not always would be voting blue.
Tactical voting may be the correct way to participate in FPTP elections, but unfortunately still doesn’t lead to a good outcome, just like leaping out the window of a burning skyscraper to avoid being burned alive is the better choice.
I agree with you. I should have said that–organizing outside of electoral politics is essential.
Tactical voting from a group of people that only have propaganda to work with instead of facts means you’re just guessing.
So now that it’s done Haley Stevens is going to concede and back El-Sayed right? Blue no matter who???
We’re fucking waiting you little hobbit.
Edit: I should have looked harder. She did do those things. My bad.
A quick search shows she already did, what’s with the vitriol?
Angry leftists raging and wondering why people side eye them.
i don’t wonder. i have charts and graphs explaining why people side-eye me. there’s even a powerpoint!
There historically has been a lot of reluctance to. And there was a lot of dirty campaigning in the primaries. Like what you’d expect in the general normally. Not to mention there’s been a lot of baseless neoliberal pearl clutching, not strictly related to this in particular that’s already getting ugly. It was never a given they would concede magnanimously. But so far it seems they have. Which is good. Hopefully the sooner people like James Carville or Bill Maher switch their registrations to Republican. The situation will only improve.
I guess you commented as I was checking and making the edit. Yep, you’re right.
The vitriol is real, but in this case undeserved.
Yes she did, hours before your comment.
Holy smokes broski! And you made your comment literally hours after I immediately corrected myself in the edit.
So…… I gotta ask, your thinker broken or what?
Yes, bud, she did. Your bad, absolutely.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/abdul-el-seyed-democratic-endorsements
“Shortly after The Associated Press projected El-Sayed as the victor in the closely watched primary, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee Chair Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) released a joint statement supporting the newly minted nominee.”
"Abdul El-Sayed has run an energetic campaign that inspired thousands of Michiganders across the state, with a clear focus on lowering costs and standing up for working families,” they said. “Democrats are united by a common purpose: putting a check on [President] Donald Trump by defeating his Republican enablers and taking back the Senate.”
Rep. Haley Stevens (D-Mich.), El-Sayed’s top rival for the Democratic nomination, conceded the race on Wednesday morning and offered “my full support as we work to defeat Mike Rogers this November.”
Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, who had endorsed Stevens, also threw her support behind El-Sayed and all other Michigan Democratic candidates. “They’ve got my support as we fight like hell together to win in November,” said Whitmer. “Together, let’s stop MAGA Republicans so we can get to work and deliver results for the people of Michigan.”
It explicitly is “vote blue no matter who”, you raging illiterate.
Maybe if you organized and formed a broad grassroots movement based around communication to catch a W, like Michiganders did, instead of being a vitriolic dickhead, you’d have better options.
“Vote blue no matter who” bitch
That’s right.
I can’t tell if you support him or are against him
Depends if he’s blue or not
I mean, lots of consequential wins were by slim margins, this should be celebrated even if it wasn’t a landslide
After two decades of donating and volunteering for progressives, hell yes this should be celebrated.
This isn’ta slim margin. If it was opposite they would have called this a blowout. They never call three points a slim margin when it’s their guy they want to win.
If Obama endorsed Abdul… It’s over for the Republicans. The older black vote went to Stevens in the primary.
If this was a close lose that would still be a win because of how close it was.
Because terminally online progressives need to find offence or they can’t sleep at night.
Second they’re worried the party will do them what they’ve done to the party
Oh, so it’ll support them and give them votes and money even as they repeatedly spit in its face? Why would they be afraid of that?
I scheduled an appointment with president Harris so you guys can hash it all out. I’m sure your totally achievable list of demands you won’t compromise on will get settled at that meeting.
The fact you’re still this salty your genocidal crooked cop lost a popularity contest to a rotten tangerine with fascist tendencies and still blaming the people who wanted a better candidate tells me you’re neither a serious person nor a moral one, so please stay mad. Please die mad about it.
