Former Austinite here. Texas doesn’t need Russian assistance for dumbfuckery.
It helps.
Dall-ass here, seconded. We have enough people rooting that crap on without understanding the consequences. Y’all forget these people re-elected Ken Paxton and Ted Cruz.
What’s the end goal for Texas? Do they want like a Texas theocracy, and then what?
It’s certainly not personal freedoms, but you’re probably on the right track.
It just needs a little push and validation.
Think about what a boon a Texan secession could be, though! Mass emigration of conservatives to their long-awaited anti-woke holy land! Two fewer Republican Senators and a net gain of 9 seats in the House! We’ll just have to pass a law stripping citizenship from those who willingly emigrate to T*xas so when it all comes crashing down, the pig fuckers can’t vote their way back into power.
(obviously, this is not serious, as things never work out smoothly - secession is actually a bad idea and would strand millions of Democratic voters as well as violate the territorial integrity of the Union. If conservatives want to have their own country, Russia will have them)
Texas would stagnate or crater without the enormous wealth federal defense spending brings in the form of two gigantic posts (Cavazos/bliss are ridiculously large) and dozens and dozens of other bases and ports - plus billions in defense spending on hardware produced there. Think we’ll leave the f35 line in texas? HAHAA
bell textron? rockets? spacex types and missiles of all kinds are built in texas.
I almost hope they try it just to see the FAFO but conversely there’s too many good people (and lots of great food) to be lost.
the national average IQ would jump 20pts if Texas and Florida were allowed to exit.
not saying it’s a good idea but…
And a hot war on our southern border against Texas-armed Republican drug cartels who may have physical custody if not operational control of American nuclear assets.
They can fight their way out if they want but anyone who expresses a desire to secede from the union is a traitor to the United States. Point blank.
Do you know why the USSR isn’t the USSR anymore? It’s because hard right soviet partisans including Vladimir Putin overthrew their softer, less authoritarian conservatives in what was left of the Communist party.
Conservatives lost at democracy, can’t cope with reality and can’t cope with their own ineptitude either.
secession is actually
…not legal.
I’m not sure why people engage the hypothetical statecraft on its [lack of] merits when “YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO TRY.” is written on a tea towel in traitors’ blood.
Law is just what’s agreed. It matters only as much as people are willing to obey it - and in the case of secession, the arguments come down to either changing (or tacitly accepting a change in) the law, or using force to restore the law.
While I’m all for Sherman’s New March to the Gulf of Mexico, secession doesn’t magically become not-secession just because it’s illegal. It just makes it so that when the state is reintegrated, they don’t have a leg to stand on in US courts.
they don’t have a leg to stand on in US courts.
To stand on nor a stand to make.
My confusion comes from people jumping to explainers of why their “country” wouldn’t work as a country when for it to get a chance to try Texas would need to win a war that Texas (or Florida, or Ala-fucking-bama*) would never win.
A lever gets pulled 888 miles away and the slots come up 777 on the 666.
(*I could see Alaska pulling away with foreign help, and parts of Tennessee could guerilla to a stalemate, but not no Texas.)
when for it to get a chance to try Texas would need to win a war that Texas (or Florida, or Ala-fucking-bama*) would never win.
The Iron Law of Institutions - decision-makers don’t make decisions that preserve the power of the polity. They make decisions that preserves the power of the decision-makers. And war is just politics by other means. If there was sufficient conservative backlash against military action against secessionists, anywhere in the States could ‘successfully’ secede.
If there was sufficient conservative backlash against military action against secessionists
…then they can get it too.
Throw anyone aiding and comforting succession under colour of law out of office under 14,3 and shoot anyone else.
I mean, I don’t disagree.
No no, trust me, if you speak to a random Texan on the street, a huge number do actually believe this. It’s a part of the great Texas Exceptionalism myth. It’s dumb as hell, but it’s true. Most of my family who still lives there believes it 150%
They wear it like a badge of (misguided) honor.
Texas feels like America’s America.
It truly is, I describe it that way to my husband. He’s lived there before but didn’t grow up there, and doesn’t understand how much stuff like “Texas could secede if it wanted to” is part of Texas mythology that is drilled into your head from a young age by basically every adult around you.
Texas pride is a huge thing; they were actually able to utilize it to lead an incredibly successful anti-littering campaign back in the 80s and 90s. If you drive down most major highways down there, you’ll see signs saying “Don’t Mess with Texas” and listing a littering fee. It lead to a 72% decrease in littering.
Texas pride is old and very deep rooted.
I love when they talk about how they “were an independent country before they became a state” like that makes them so superior. I always like to remind those people that they were independent because the US didn’t want them… Their first official act as a nation was to setup an embassy in DC and beg to become a state every day until it actually happened.
I feel like it’s one of those things where they’ll talk it up, but the moment you call their bluff, they’ll suddenly get cold feet.
While I’m sure this is happening to some degree, I’m also confident they’re stupid enough to actually want this as well.
I am authentic Texan, comrade, not here to exploit you to sow chaos on enemy country, I have best interests of our community at heart.
Go Houston Astros team of base ball! Just like you. Go Dallas Cowboy team of American feetsball!
Go Steamboat Willie of the Hollywood film industry, “choo choo”!Can we keep Austin?
I honestly can’t imagine why anyone on either side would want to prevent Texas from seceding tbh
- because it would involve length court battles sucking resources for generations
- It would be allowing some local government assholes a lot of power
- It would put a shitton of oil beyond the US borders
- There is zero way it would be done by a direct vote of the population including teenagers
- It would leave everyone a lot poorer.
- And it wouldn’t even achieve the goals everyone claims they want
Regardless of any other reasons, there’s no way in hell the US government would give up one of the biggest domestic sources of oil.
Lose Social Security benefits speedrun any%
