I run a few groups, like @fediversenews@venera.social, mostly on Friendica. It’s okay, but Friendica resembles Facebook Groups more than Reddit. I also like the moderation options that Lemmy has.

Currently, I’m testing jerboa, which is an Android client for Lemmy. It’s in alpha, has a few hiccups, but it’s coming along nicely.

Personally, I hope the #RedditMigration spurs adoption of more Fediverse server software. And I hope Mastodon users continue to interact with Lemmy and Kbin.

All that said, as a mod of a Reddit community (r/Sizz) I somewhat regret giving Reddit all that content. They have nerve charging so much for API access!

Hopefully, we can build a better version of social media that focuses on protocols, not platforms.

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    In general, it works pretty nice, but there are some limitations.

    The biggest one for me is discoverability. The federation means that there is more fragmentation and it’s harder to find the right community for something.

    For example, there are country/city communities for my country/city on multiple instances. And since it’s hard to find the “correct” one, it fragments out much harder than Reddit did. Combine that with generally lower attendance numbers and you get really tiny communities.

    This is not aided by Jerboa, which doesn’t open internal links internally. So if someone posts a link to a community and I press it, it instead tries to open it with my email app.

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      Finding “the right community” is definitely an issue, and I’m sure will continue to be one for a while. But remember Reddit had the same issue, with multiple redundant subreddits when one would have been better.

      I’m sure things will consolidate over time, with less popular communities going quiet and their subscribers moving to more active ones.

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        That is true, that was an issue on Reddit as well. But here it’s even worse, since you can have a community with the same name on different instances. It basically adds another dimension to the discoverability issue.

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          It’s true, but I guess it’s the price of federation. And Reddit having a single namespace meant a lot of subreddits needed to have “real” or “true” prefixed to their names, which was pretty confusing.

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      How does one find other communities outside of Beehaw on Lemmy, anyway?

      And how do I comment there? I found some links and I go there, and I’m not logged-in. Do I have to join every instance of Lemmy…or…?

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    A year ago, I viewed the Fediverse as an unnecessary, complicated framework created by a handful of well-intentioned individuals as a solution to a problem that wasn’t really there.

    Today, I view it as a necessity.

    This past year has been a hard lesson for me to stop placing trust in massive, centralized web services like Twitter and Reddit and to start federating more of my online activity. There’s going to be growing pains, but Lemmy has been pretty good so far and it’s definitely going to be worth it in the end.

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    For wide spread adoption there are a lot of issues with the fediverse. The main one is the home pages of fediverse instances or join-X.org sites immediately turn people away with their language, jargon and content. Nobody cares about the open source licence, or how it’s “federated” or what the developers can do, or that you can run your own server or what languages and frameworks it’s built on etc. These all will turn people away. Literally the first sentence on join-lemmy is “Lemmy is a selfhosted social link aggregation and discussion platform”. Nobody wants to self host anything (well I do, but near to 100% of people don’t). Then there are screen shots of code diff’s and actual code, then a list of programming languages, then some Latin with hard to see ‘mod tools’, and then at the end back to self hosting “With Lemmy, you can easily host your own server, and all these servers are federated”. None of this is enticing people in. It’s turning people away.

    These entrances to the fediverse should be about community, discussions, engagement etc. That’s what people want to sign up for and start participating. Just get them signed up. Once they’re in they can learn about the other benefits and that they can move the profile to different servers, or whathaveyou. Keep all the other bumf hidden away behind a “benefits” link.

    Someone needs to come up with better terminology to fediverse and federated to avoid having to explain it all the time. It’s federated… You know… Like email. Well I’ve used email a long time and nobody has ever called it federated or used that term before when talking about any aspect of email - and I run my own email server.

    Tl:dr: just cut the crap and make on-boarding easier. Dont let developers dictate the content of the homepage.

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      This is what I’m most excited about. I’m much younger so didn’t get to experience it like it was back in the day, but I heavily admire how decentralized things used to be where we didn’t have Silicon Valley running the internet. The hard part is I don’t see the masses moving over. But those who do will get a more community centric experience would be my guess rather than feeling like you’re another user in a sea of people

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      This is also something I really like. Dedicated forums on dedicated web sites for different topics, but this time they’re accessible through a single interface and you can communicate across forums.

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        Exactly! I used to think of reddit like that, until it became something…different. I’ve found myself going back to old forums instead of reddit lately.

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    It’s looking great! I joined just 2 days ago and the communities I subscribed to are already looking much more lively today. Thanks, Reddit blackout!

    Also written in Rust, btw :)

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    The UX is kinda rough around the edges, but it’s filling my scroll addiction while reddit takes a steaming dump on everyone.

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    I hate when threads automatically update, scrolling content down my browser.

    I hate that when I hit back on my web browser, it doesn’t bring me back to where I was previously on the page. I have to scroll down all over again.

    Lack of content or small communities don’t bother me. It just means more people need to contribute, myself included.

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    It feels like the start of something new, you know? Sort of exciting because coming from Reddit to Lemmy feels like taking a leap of faith as we are looking for this place to replace what we have lost. At the end of the day, communities are what make or break a platform and we have that going.

    In terms of the platform itself, I am still trying to figure my way around here but the UI/UX feels easy to interact with. I guess I would love to have a mobile app for iOS down the line to replace my addiction to Apollo!

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    The idea is outstanding. The parts of the UI that work are great. There’s much work to be done, especially with regard to subscription and discovery. The whole “copy/paste this into your server’s search bar” thing is… not great.

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      That’s probably the most janky feeling thing. The other thing is that communities from other instances only sync on yours when the first subscriber from your instance adds it to their feed.

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      The copy/paste thing has got to go. It’s somewhat non-obvious and make federation even more confusing when people click links and end up not logged in anymore.

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        100%. That’s probably the biggest gripe I had initially. Finally wrapped my mind around the fediverse as a concept (more or less) just in time to get booted from my login over and over trying to subscribe to some communities

        I’m still enjoying it here, but I could see someone less determined ditching over something like that.

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      I still haven’t figured out how the search thing is even supposed to work. I was searching for communities on other servers and it wasn’t working, but then after a while it worked fine and appeared in the communities list.

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    For me, 10/10 just as good. It only needs more content.

    I think it’s important to make sure your instance is federated with all the other big ones, though, since adding a new one is not user-friendly.

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    I tried the fediverse with Mastodon to replace Twitter, but it didn’t work out. On Twitter, I was exclusively following accounts of personalities/organizations. As these accounts did not make the switch from Twitter to Mastodon, there was little use.

    I feel like the fediverse works way better with content aggregation. I don’t really care who specifically is on Lemmy, as long as there is content and discussion. So far it’s been really nice.

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      Honestly, great point. Aggregators don’t need a hugely enfranchised userbase, just enough people that share a few interests and suddenly, functionally, it’s comparable to reddit. Only thing it’s missing is a huge knowledge base of questions already answered, but for the most part that’s not the bulk of my reddit experience and something else will replace it for that in time. But as long as there’s some people here, it’s doing it’s job

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      i feel the same with the whole, following major companies and corporations on twitter, no now my mastodon is only linux and developer stuffs.

      looking forward and hoping that lemmy does continue to grow! especially considering the recent announcement that reddit will not back down on changes amidst the black outs

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    Used Reddit for 13 years, tried out Kbin and Lemmy yesterday and settled on Lemmy.

    Long story short, I’m going back to Reddit.

    • There needs to be ONE site, Lemmy.com, that people goto. This entire thing about having .whateveryouwant is VERY off putting. Most internet users have been trained to be extremely wary of odd or unusual things, so having anything besides .com/.net/.org will turn away a huge portion of users.

    I initially setup an account on Lemmy.world, then realized that I couldn’t migrate it to another server and that when I deleted that account on that server all my comments were deleted.

    Deciphering the distributed nature of it took me, a relatively tech-friendly person, almost the entire day and several ‘What the fuck?’ posts. I now understand it more. There are some very low-level guides that have been haphazardly put together, but there absolutely needs to be a MUCH smoother guide/explanation to this whole thing. That learning process will turn people away for sure.

    • BECAUSE I understand it more now, I’m left feeling VERY uncomfortable about my data security. If this is going to become a mainstream thing, as it reaches and before it gets to that critical mass of users, there’s going to be SO. MANY. SECURITY ISSUES. There’s no 2fa at all, hacking and user-account hacking is just going to run rampant, and I’m left wondering ‘Where is my username and password actually stored?’. The answer, sadly, is wherever the dude who’s running the instance/server is. In the ‘Fediverse’ your server instance might be hosted in a US or EU data center with proper digital and physical security, or it could be Joe Blows basement in Iowa running off a NAS. The easy-to-see future here is that Lemmy will fail to attract a critical mass of people because they’ll initially arrive, after a few months their instances will just cease to exist/get shut down/the hosts will decide its no longer a fun hobby to do.

    With a large corporation, they have the staff and resources to secure and maintain the servers physically and digitally, and keep staff up-to-date on current infosec threats and get out in front of them. Beyond that, if there IS a breach, they have the ability to recognize it, understand the legalities and requirements of reporting it, and can be held accountable by regulatory bodies. Joe doesn’t have the resources to really maintain and keep a server running, nor the knowledge of his responsibilities for keeping the data safe digitally or physically.

    On top of that, if Joe’s basement loses power/gets hacked/Joe decides he’s moving to San Fransisco and can’t bring his NAS with him and the server goes down, and that’s where my instance is hosted well there goes my entire account/comments/data.

    • Finding and subbing to communities is painfully difficult. It should be one-click, but somewhere I need to goto an external list, find what I want, and then copy/paste the URL into the search… and then 50% of the time, it doesn’t work. This is an understandable growing pain and can likely be fixed by UI/UX upgrades, but for now it’s a definite turn-off.

    • There simply is no content. I’m not a creator, I want content aggregated for me, and I’ve gotten used to having a single place to get it from that floods me with thousands of different articles/memes/posts/etc every minute. Until the user base arrives in one single place and starts generating content, there’s no reason for most people like me to be there as by far the larger number of users never create anything at all and only exist to consume the content generated.

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    I’m enjoying it so far. I like that it’s not a direct one-for-one clone of reddit (not that it was intended to be). It feels like a combination of older reddit (> 10 years ago, when it wasn’t as active) and old school forums (like how older posts will bump if there’s activity). It makes me want to be more active vs being a lurker.

    I have no intention of going back to reddit. I’ve already deleted RIF from my phone. The 3PA thing was the last straw for me, but I felt like reddit had been going downhill for a while and I think I had been looking for an excuse to fuck off but couldn’t quit cold turkey. Whatever good intentions that company might’ve started with, they’re just a greedy corporation now. They haven’t cared about their users for a while (which is interesting because their users are what create their content. Reddit itself doesn’t create anything).

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    I like it. I can see myself being a long-term user here, in fact I plan to be. However, I’m experiencing a lot of timeouts and lag, I know it’s not on my end. I’m not techie enough to know the reason this happens, but Im pretty sure that it won’t adopt mainstream users until it runs smoother.

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      I have a solid feeling that your lag and timeouts are due to the influx of users signing up to the Lemmy-verse…it will likely get better soon.

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      I signed up as a lemmy.ml user before they started getting hammered and ended up making a new account at a smaller server. I think a lot of the lag yesterday was a result of droves of redditors heading over to the bigger lemmy servers.

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      I think it is mainly because of the large amount of new users who are migrating from reddit.

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      Yeah I’m the same way. The good news is that when I joined Mastodon a few months ago, the same thing happened. Now, it’s one of the most stable websites/apps I use!

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    It reminds me of when I first got into Linux. It’s different and has bit of a learning curve, but it is always what makes it exciting and fun to start using.